27 Oct More Back in Black Attempts- Update
Update: Listened to you guys and re-did the drums levels. Plus added some compression on the drums, too (helps the punch). Huh?
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
If you’re wondering why I have been rather silent, it’s because I was still trying, and still trying, …
Back in Black. Probably one of the hardest songs to nail, ever. Two days – not full days naturally, as work is also there an’ all… but is it hard to play! Sounds “easy”, those three chords, but the timing is so groovy and physically unnatural to play (not to listen to and to hear, but to play) that I must have re-played it as a whole (bass, three guitars, including the Gretsch on the left side) maybe 10 times. Yet still, it’s not like the original.
I have to say that these drum loops I am using are really not good. Not punchy or groovy enough I think. Still. this is it.
I played it with the 1976 Super Lead, with an Ultimate attenuator at bedroom levels. Used the 1960B with blackbacks inside. This time I used two microphones, and the difference is amazing. I positioned them – I tried – the same way that Platt described (link here). Will post a picture asap. It MAKES a huge difference.
Then, I had to separately equalize the microphones, which means coping with six equalization patterns, two per guitar for all three guitars. I used the same EQ’s for the SG (on centre and right), but different, very different for the Gretsch, which has a totally different sound. Also, the amp settings for the Gretsch were altered, it required less “Volume”, down to 5.
Actually, I used the same volume for the SG but “boosted it” with a volume stompbox, just a volume boost, no extra gain, and I set the “tone” of the box (similar to a Klone) in the middle position, to try and boost mids.
You judge the results.
Will add more details later
FIl 
BadAC/DCBoy
Posted at 02:27h, 05 NovemberI think the second one sounds better. The first one sounds a bit, I dont know… weak(?). Both of ’em are a piece of art though!
Im listening to the begining of
“Back In Black” right know, and the big difference between your versions and the real one is: The sound. On the original, you can really hear the raw chords played by Mal’ and the magic lick played by Angus. It’s just somethin’ indescribable… I can just describe it as raw. Like a bite!
Still Fil, your one of the worlds best guitar players and your a great lad!
Wish you the best mate!
Cheers x /Anthony
Evilrat
Posted at 18:29h, 31 OctoberWell it doesn’t sound exataully like the album, but does that matter? It’s full of feeling and really rocking! Not sure where to post random questions, but what are your guys thoughts on ‘Airbourne’ a band that clearly has been inspired by Ac/Dc?
Ciao
dubsharayko
Posted at 15:42h, 01 NovemberI had actually mentioned Airbourne on a different post. I had heard them playing in Best Buy and the two guys working in the music section thought it was AC/DC! I like their sound a lot, although most people would agree that their skill is no where near AC/DC’s (as stated by Fil). Some of their songs are just WAY TOO FAST and I think they need a lead guitarist rather than having a singer/lead guitarist. Other than those few things I think they’re a rockin’ band. I would definitely go to see one of their concerts.
redlinechavez
Posted at 09:53h, 30 OctoberI think the 2nd one sounds better.
raiderflores
Posted at 03:22h, 30 Octoberawesome i cant tell which is better… Really good job… does the cab have the stock speakers in it? curious cuz i hav a 1960B 2
anthonyportlock
Posted at 14:37h, 29 OctoberWhat would be good is to put the original recording on the page along side yours to help us compair, that way is makes it easier to listen and comment.
Ant
Kinglance
Posted at 18:34h, 28 OctoberHey, I posted some more ideas on Soundclick. Don’t know where to post them (maybe we need a topic for own ideas/songs from users). So here they are: AC/DC-idea 3,4 and 5. http://www.soundclick.com/kinglance Feel free to comment and be critical! Greetings from Belgium, J-L
Dries
Posted at 22:52h, 28 OctoberSounds very nice. Where are you from in Belgium?
Greetings from Belgium too 😉
Kinglance
Posted at 23:29h, 28 OctoberHey, thanks for the comment! I’m from Vichte, close to Waregem and Kortrijk, West-Flanders :p I study in Ghent! U are from?
Dries
Posted at 23:37h, 28 OctoberOstend. Studying in KATHO Kortrijk. Are u using guitar rig on the recordings?
Kinglance
Posted at 16:39h, 29 OctoberIk gebruik Eleven Rack voor de opnames. Maar guitar rig 4 heb ik ook.
Dries
Posted at 18:12h, 29 OctoberNice. Eleven rack is nog redelijk duur zeker? Klinkt wel mooi. Wat voor gitaar gebruikte je?
Kinglance
Posted at 18:19h, 29 October795 euro voor Eleven Rack. Mijn gitaar is een Gibson Angus Young Signature SG , zelfde als die van Solodallas, maar dan zonder handtekening en niet aged.
Dries
Posted at 21:50h, 29 OctoberDure apperatuur! Ik speel met een malcolm young sig. Speelje in een band?
Kinglance
Posted at 21:58h, 29 OctoberNope, kben aant zoeken naar de juiste mensen… Je mag me anders gerust toevoegen op msn ze… jl_demurie@hotmail.com Wel sjiek zo een malcolm young sig :p We kunnen anders op msn wa kletsen, en op facebook Jean-Luc Demurie intypen en ge vindt mij ook…
banane
Posted at 09:51h, 29 OctoberAll 5 sounds very nice, number 4 is my favourite. Seems to be a good idea to play along a bit to self recorded tracks.
Kinglance
Posted at 16:50h, 29 OctoberThanks for the comment mate! If u want the files, to pay over them, or if u want to add bass or drums too it, no problem. Give me a sign or say me how I need to put them online and I do it… jl_demurie@hotmail.com if u want to have my personal mail!
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:12h, 29 OctoberVery good in fact: I played on track and let it running while reading and browsing, and my son is playing with his grandmother. The first track it was, even relaxing. Tres jolie! Recording ourselves is one of the best practicing presents we can make to ourselves.
Kinglance
Posted at 16:53h, 29 OctoberHey Fil! If u want to do something with my songs (adding a guitarline or adding drums or bass)… no problem. In fact I would be honored! If u want my files, give me a sign… jl_demurie@hotmail.com or if u ciuld say where I can put them online…
Kinglance
Posted at 17:50h, 28 OctoberMaybe a silly question, but what headphones do u use? I want to buy myself a new one…
Hyce777
Posted at 05:27h, 28 OctoberCloser still, but it’s still too bright I think.
LedSabbath
Posted at 21:44h, 28 OctoberThe brightness is fine. It just needs more drive.