17 Dec AC/DC’s “Have A Drink On Me” (Metro Cover)
Some time passed huh? Thanks for staying with me!
Here’s a cover of “Have A Drink On Me” that George Metropoulos (MetroAmp Founder and Owner) has asked me to play along. The original backing track is played by George himself (with a Metro amp of his) and his band.
The original video (without my parts) can be found here:
I added some guitars on top of it. Rhythm and Solo, plus some other part “underneath”.
I played this one exclusively with a Metro JTM50, boosting channel one with a clean boost (no overdrive, just volume boost) to add some drive. A bit like Angus used to do with his Schaffer Vega. Result is as you hear it. Can be made better, no doubt. The guitar is a 1966/1967 “issue” Gibson SG Standard that sounds and plays like butter (you’ll still have to fight with it to resemble Angus’ tight playing).
I chose another camera angle for this one, as I wanted you to see a bit of the mess I play in! π
I hope you’ll enjoy. With this, I’ll revert to “posting mode”. Been away almost three full weeks… good to “see” you all again!
FIl π
Ant
Posted at 20:27h, 04 Marchlol just noticed a “flaw” in your video, at aproximatly 17 seconds it flickers
so i checked it out ^^ a single frame changes showing Fil clicking away at his pc lol
SoloDallas
Posted at 20:34h, 04 Marchlool the damn Final Cut Pro. Another reason to have switched to the brand new Adobe Premiere. What a fantastic editing tool. And it supports multicores. Watch my new video made with it, posted it seconds ago (Vimeo still processing, won’t take too long)
Ant
Posted at 20:56h, 04 Marchcool didnt think you would see my post lol
hows it hangin? π
SoloDallas
Posted at 20:58h, 04 MarchI see them all!!!! By email π
Everythings cool. DId you see latest video out?
Ant
Posted at 21:15h, 04 Marchyep poped in a comment! π
rjofig
Posted at 21:15h, 04 MarchBy the way, I’ve been using RSS to view comments (Google reader), it’s been working well. I find it the easiest way to glance over what’s going on once in a while.
headwhop26
Posted at 23:20h, 04 MarchI love Premiere, thats the software I use. That in conjunction with Photoshop makes for a bombsauce video
Devil'Fingers"
Posted at 10:00h, 28 DecemberAndre,
Do you still use guitar rig, because in your back in black lesson, well, its bit other sound than on others.
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 21:53h, 28 DecemberYes. I still use Guitar Rig.
Maybe it’s because i have recently updated to Guitar Rig 4?
It definetly sounds better π
Devil'Fingers"
Posted at 09:47h, 27 DecemberHi,
Well I got question.
I see you all have allready “record” stuff. Im really sick of to put some covers(rhythm temporarily). What Am I looking for is mic? I d like it to be good and up to 20 $ price.
Thanks
PaweΕ
banane
Posted at 10:56h, 27 DecemberThe best method is recording the speaker with a mic connected to your computer, yes.
20$ is not much for a mic, but maybe you’ll find a Karaoke mic or another dynamic mic for that price. I used one and it’s recordings aren’t very good but indeed ok.
Another method would be plugging your guitar directly into your computer and record it. Will also work but sounds different because of the missing amp. For this purpose there is amp simulation software like Guitar Rig.
But for good recordings (either with a mic or a software amp modeler) you’ll need a good sound card. Most onboard sound chips are ok for playing music but bad at recording. They aren’t made for this.
Kinglance
Posted at 22:59h, 26 DecemberI’ve put some audio-files on, from my Shure mic, Marshall JMP, AY signature. Sounds so death to me π Here u can listen… http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10042662&q=hi&newref=1
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10042656&q=hi&newref=1
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=9985059&q=hi&newref=1
This week I’ll go to the guitarshop… I’m desperate π I followed you guys instructions to place the mic…
Kinglance
Posted at 23:01h, 26 DecemberI hear some room-noise. Played in my bedroom. But the room shouldn’t effect the sound? Or am I wrong?
banane
Posted at 23:24h, 26 DecemberYes, the room shouldnt affect the sound when the mic is placed right in front of the cabinet.
How loud did you play, what cabinet do you have and how much preamp did you use?
Kinglance
Posted at 00:02h, 27 DecemberI have an 1960A cabinet, and preamp was at 2, gain at 7.5-8
banane
Posted at 00:13h, 27 DecemberDid you mean volume instead of gain? Or what JMP do you have exactly?
Kinglance
Posted at 00:20h, 27 DecemberSorry, my mistake, I have a 1979 Marshall JMP MKII 50 watt…
Master volume at 2, pre-amp at 8…
banane
Posted at 00:39h, 27 DecemberWell, then you have exatly my setup π
I can hear a lot of distortion caused by the high preamp value, but otherwise it seems ok for me.
It’s hard for me to judge the overall tone quality, but beside of the preamp distortion it sounds ok.
I’m hardly using more than preamp at 6 here.
However, I’m not the best one to ask for listening to recordings, maybe some other people can listen too?
Lemmiwinks
Posted at 19:20h, 11 Januarywoow! preamp at 8 and master at 10, its almost metal! π
Lemmiwinks
Posted at 19:22h, 11 January*I ment master at 2
I tought the last recording was good. You found a good spot:)
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 07:16h, 27 Decemberhmm… What speakers do you have on your 1960A cab? The stock ones (G12T-75)? If so, that might be the reason of your “dead” tone. These speakers have a more “modern” voice (I would say… “duller”?). They tend to emphasis the bass frequencies I think.
So… basically you want a more… “midrangy” tone? That’s it?
Did you try loading your cab with G12M “Greenbacks” or G12H30 speakers? They definetly sound more “vintage”.
I think the amp sounds great!
The core of the tone is certainly there. π
banane
Posted at 10:48h, 27 DecemberYes, my 1960A with G12T-75 is also very loud in the bass frequencies, so I’m rolling back the bass on the amp most times.
But beside the distortion in his sound examples, do you think, it sounds bad at all?
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 16:49h, 27 DecemberNot at all.
It sounds great actually. π
It just needs some tweaks on the settings I think. Maybe a bit less on the pre-amp, since these speakers are really “heavy-sounding” (at 6, like you said, I think it would sound really good).
I also can’t hear any “room noise”. What I hear is the hiss of the amp caused by the high setting of the pre-amp (At least I think it’s that)
Kinglance, maybe you could also bring the “presence” up a bit, to give it more bite.
And play a bit louder! The louder it gets, the better it will sound! π
Cheers brothers! π
banane
Posted at 19:04h, 27 DecemberThank you, Andre. Thats my opinion too. And well, it’s great to know I can trust my ears π
From master volume 3 upwards it begins to sound great here. Thats the reason why an attenuator isn’t much wrong even with a master volume amp.
Cheers, Andre π
Kinglance
Posted at 19:14h, 27 DecemberThanks mate for the nice and usefull comments. Please say Jean-Luc π Yes, it’s the stock-ones that are in my cab. How many would cost Greenbacks? Do u suggest new speakers in my 1960A cab, or do u suggest a whole new cab, a 1960B cab (thisone is loaded with Greenbacks or am I worng?)
I will make some new recordings with lower pre-amp, and try to play some louder, but I’ll play already loud π Thanks for the comments AndrΓ© (I hope I may say AndrΓ©) and Banane (Franz isn’t it?) It would be great if Fil could say his idea about my soundfiles… But he’s a busy chap π
banane
Posted at 19:35h, 27 DecemberYes, of course, Jean-Luc! Yes, I’m Franz π
Well, Fil said, a non-slanted cabinet loaded with Greenbacks or Blackbacks with the older basketweave cloth is the best for the AC/DC tone, if I remember correctly. That would be the 1960 BX cabinet (which has Greenbacks in it).
If more than volume 2 would be too loud, I also recommend an attenuator. That would allow you to run your amp at volume 6 or 8 or even fully cranked (so the tubes can give their best) at bedroom level.
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 19:37h, 27 DecemberYou are welcome Jean-Luc!
hmm… I don’t know much about prices and stuff, but I guess it’s not that expensive to get some Greenbacks.
Well… The 1960A and the 1960B are basically the same cab (except that one is slanted and the other not).
So, unless you get a 1960AX or 1960BX (these are the ones with Greenbacks. They have that grey-ish checkerboard grill cloth – wich hold back some high frequencies) I suggest you to just change the speakers. π
Consider that by the time AC/DC started using the 2203/ 2204 amps, they also started using the “transparent” black style cloth cabs. So I would experiment putting the Greenbacks on your 1960A π
Either way, it will do the job π
Yes. Call me AndrΓ©, please π
banane
Posted at 19:47h, 27 DecemberYes, thats what I also plan to do. The G12T-75 sounds just too metal-like. So changing it with Greenbacks would be the most common sense instead of buying a whole new cabinet.
Will be the next project together with the AY signature pickup π
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 20:15h, 27 DecemberSounds like a good plan π
I would like to hear the results too! π
In fact, I have a similar problem. I have a 50w Plexi Clone (#1987) made here in Brazil. My cab is a 2×12 (same brand as the head). At the moment, it’s loaded with a pair of Eminece 125 speakers (that would be the equivalent to the G12T-75). It’s too heavy for my taste. I can’t put Celestions in there (too expensive here in Brazil, plus, the G12Ms would get blown if I cranked the amp). I’m looking for the Eminence GB-12 wich sounds pretty close to the real Greenbacks (maybe a bit smoother), and they are 50w each. But it seems that the damn company stopped importing those! I’m getting crazy! π
banane
Posted at 20:24h, 27 DecemberHi Andre,
wrote you a PM regarding this.
Kinglance
Posted at 21:21h, 27 DecemberI tried with less pre-amp(6) and more volume(3-4), here are the results: http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10045996&q=hi&newref=1
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10045997&q=hi&newref=1
I think I’m simply a bad player!!
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 22:56h, 27 DecemberAh. Now it sounds more Rock ‘n’ Roll! π
Playing is good too π
Cheers!
banane
Posted at 23:04h, 27 DecemberYeah, that sounds pretty good, Jean-Luc. Maybe kick up presence a bit too.
See, tweaking the settings did help, right? π
SGACE
Posted at 22:00h, 27 DecemberDear Andre, the black style cloth cabs that AC/DC started to use in late 70’s is actually a basket weave cloth in black colour, in mid 80’s this cloth was substituted by the common βtransparentβ black style cloth.
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 22:03h, 27 DecemberAh XD
Really? I didn’t know that!
Sorry guys! My bad! I should’ve researched a bit more!
Thanks for the info mate! π
rpatzelt
Posted at 12:34h, 23 DecemberWelcome back π Fil. Nice one!
solocali
Posted at 03:44h, 23 Decemberthanks Jaiminho Pagina, I dont know much about ebay or have a ebay account but I will look more into it and thanks for all the help and info π
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 05:32h, 22 DecemberAh. Another great one Fil!
No comments needed π
Sent you an E-mail with some “news” π
Devil'Fingers"
Posted at 09:40h, 24 DecemberYes!!!!!!!!!!!!
I finally found you Andre. (thegibsonsg61):D
I have to say everyone, that he was my “first teacher” on guitar!!!! Thanks Andre
PaweΕ
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 00:49h, 25 DecemberHey π
You are welcome mate! π
Merry Christmas!
anthonyportlock
Posted at 01:59h, 22 DecemberAwsome playing, kicked back and nailed it π
Ant
solocali
Posted at 01:03h, 22 Decemberhey fil glad to see your back I have found one 78 2204 jmp that I finally saved enough money for, I never have bought anything vintage before so I was wondering if you can check this amp out and see if its a good deal, also I was wondering it looks like it may have a third hole but I thought all 50 watts had 2 holes please help fil Im buying it from guitar center website just type in VINT 1978 MARSHALL JMP 2204 50W HEAD I really would appreciate it fil
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 02:35h, 23 DecemberHmm… It’s definetly modded. The stock 2204 only has 2 inputs. I’m not sure what was done to it though.
There are no photos of the back, or of the “guts”, so it’s impossible to tell if it’s in good shape…
And also, there’s nothing about repairs, replacements or wear on the description. If we consider this is a 32 years old amp…. It’s really risky…
Might be a good deal. Or it might be a dog. There’s no enough information about this one.
Are you going to buy through the internet? If so, there are a lot of these amps on Ebay. You might find a better deal there. π
This is just my humble opinion. I hope I could help π
JaiminhoPagina
Posted at 03:01h, 23 DecemberFound one for you π
Looks like a good one (and 100 bucks cheaper!) – The only weird thing is the impedance selector. But these are notorious for always falling off and being replaced.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-Marshall-JMP-MKII-50w-Head-/180602188747?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0cbab3cb
But… ask the other guys on the “Ebay Watch post”, here on the comunity. I’m not an expert (what the heck I’m talking about???? I’m just a newbie! XP), so don’t trust 100% in me π
Cheers!
Dries
Posted at 22:06h, 19 DecemberYour guitar is just tuned perfect, thats one thing that I really notice. Even when you strike hard, it isn’t going out of tune. Can you give some tips to tune the guitar like that?
nice one Fil!
SoloDallas
Posted at 22:48h, 19 DecemberThanks mate. It actually isn’t. Usually, I tune the thicker strings (E and A) a tad below. This, just to allow big strikes and that “aaAAAaaaw” sound.
lucat
Posted at 19:05h, 19 DecemberCiao SoloDallas o se posso Filippo. Ti scrivo in italiano. Complimenti e grazie per tutto. Ti volevo dire solo una cosa e sapere cosa ne pensi. Tra le parti di aggiunte nel secondo video c’Γ¨ quella in cui durante la strofa la chitarra segue il basso sul LA, ma mentre poi il basso passa sul SOL, la chitarra continua sul LA e si crea una dissonanza. E’ un effetto voluto?
svh366
Posted at 07:50h, 19 Decemberwould be great if you made a tutorial for this one!!!
solocali
Posted at 01:57h, 19 Decemberhey fil do you still play gigs with your band? I would like to see a video of you guys playing
Kinglance
Posted at 20:47h, 18 DecemberDamn, I have a Angus Young Signature Custom Gibson SG, a Marshall JMP 50 watt, and a Shure SM57, but can’t achieve the tone like yours… π I think it’s something with my room. I played this afternoon with my door open, and replaced my amp, and got a much better sound. But can’t achieve the tone with my Shure mic… π
SoloDallas
Posted at 20:57h, 18 DecemberShow me how you are miking. Is it close up? I’d do close up with an SM57. Very close, right on the cloth of the cabinet. THEN, I’d experiment with positioning AND on and off axis. Are you doing all this?
Kinglance
Posted at 22:22h, 18 DecemberI tried already very close (right on the cloth of the cab) and tried already 10 cm off… But I still have enoying irritating room-noise… I’ll post some recordings on soundclick… I don’t understand on and off axis… What’s that you’re meaning?
Dries
Posted at 01:28h, 19 Decemberdon’t place the mic in the center of the speaker.
Lemmiwinks
Posted at 14:41h, 25 Decemberwhat is it that doesn’t sounds good? clipping? too dry sound?
sockmannd
Posted at 19:48h, 18 Decemberexcellent playing as always! this song is one of my favorites and you nailed it. thanks for playing and keep them coming!
Tyler
Posted at 16:46h, 18 DecemberSounds awesome Fil, george put together a great backing track!
rjofig
Posted at 15:12h, 20 DecemberGreat playing, Fil, and great backing track – can you convince George to produce more tracks like this one? π