Hey Fil (Or anyone :P), I have a question, i’m not familiar with 50’s wiring, but would it work with a guitar that has only one volume control? Cheers,
Pete.
Sorry, I should have been more specific, I literally have one volume knob π so 50’s wiring may be out of the question…..I just want my guitar to clean up nicely when I roll back on the volume, I have very low output pickups (around 6.2K, or so it says) Would getting higher output pickups help with this?
The bummer thing is, you are right, there is no 50’s wiring for a “volume only” setup. The premise of 50’s wiring is, mainly, how the capacitor is connected between the vol. & tone pots.
As far as a higher output pickup goes I’m not for sure. It could go either way, as in: it could clean-up OR it could amplify the muddiness you’re getting now.
Maybe the pot resistance value could be changed out to help as well. (cheaper option to try too) π
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. π
BTW: Curiosity makes me wonder. What kind of guitar do you have? Is there room to “add” a tone pot to it? If so 50’s wiring could be done……
Sorry……one more thought.
(Depending on how adventurous you are)
From your comments it seems you have 2 pickups (Humbuckers???) with a single vol.
IF there’s room to add a tone pot. You could install “push/pull” pots and hopefully room for a switch and THEN you would be able to have a full LP/SG 50′ wiring. π
Well I have two V’s and i’ve removed the neck pickup on them so I can get more string vibration as I never used it anyway. One of them is one of the deepest sounding guitars i’ve ever heard π So they are literally one pickup one knob guitars. I guess I could try adding a tone pot to it, but I just don’t like fiddling around with all that stuff when i’m playing π
I really like the deep tones that can be had from the V’s. π
They’re a cool guitar, I just can’t play them that well towards the end of the frets. (small hands π )
Anyway, here’s a link to a diagram made specifically for 50’s V wiring. It would require going back to 2 pickups but you’d get the clean-up you’re wanting out of it. π
I was never that in love with the look of the Korina until I heard it here some months ago but it was/is my favourite sounding of all the guitars of the Metro session. Do you have any details from the pick-up? (have checked Korina article, nothing there).
A 100W amp is only 3db louder (usually) than a 50W amp. Volume is not measured in watts, 100W is not twice as loud, only a little louder. by the way, the celestion V30s are really loud speakers. So a 50W head with V30s will be about at the same volume as a 100W trough greenbacks. So a 100W amp with this cab would be as loud as your 1987XL with the other cab you have.
btw, you can take out two tubes of a 100W amp, then it will be 50W. That is a common technique. But if you put all 4 power tubes in, then you get not just a little (!) volume difference, but also a different tone. So a 100W amp is more versital than a 50W amp, i think.
understandable:) I,ve never possesed any 100 watts marshalls and for me even the 30 watts like the jtm is too loud for me. Now when Ive tryed out several amps other amps and Ive decided to go in to Orange amplifications. Im bought a Tiny terror for homeuse and advance later maybe into the bigger models.
Right now my Gretsch is in a shop for exchanging PU’s for real old filtertrons and some adjustments. CANT WAIT to get it back! since its my only electric guitar!
As soon as that happens I’ll maybe put on a videoresponse with it since my brother got a Mac computer today that I might get to borrow for recording and so on π
Because it was easier to play, i.e., the guitar having strong pickups. Therefore, you can hear it clearly, the amp saturates more and it is easier to sustain. All of my other guitars or most of them, have weak pickups, because they’re old: it gets really tough to play… π
This ’50s wiring on the bridge pu. seems to be damn good. When you roll back the volume, it doesn’t cut the high end, so It’s really bright and sparkling. I feel that this mod is really necessary with my guitar, because when I roll back the volume, my amp cleans up really nicely BUT at the same time it looses tons clarity. The sound cleaned up by the volume know on the guitar is way too dark. I hope this wiring method in my guitar will help the amp a little. Btw, nice demo Fil! π And nice SG.
i wouldnt do that to my “AC/DC” – SG, because in Angus’s case he uses that thing, that from like 10-7 on the volume (depending on the pot) you just loose volume and below 7 you also loose the highend and get the bass in. Also very dependent on how the Pickup sounds. With a PAF style pickup its usally 10-7 just lower volume, 7-4 less highend more bass of course a drop in volume again, and finaly form 4-0 it gets bright again. But I can only speak of my guitars wich all have 500k pots and “bumblebee” caps. 50s wiring makes the volume to what it should be: a volume knob, dosnt kill a frequency when rolling it off. I tryed it but i dont realy need it, its a matter of taste ! π
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 22:33h, 02 SeptemberI want pickups like these!!! Wow!!! Imagine this pickup on any amp with the Schaffer Vega on full power and amp cranked without attenuator!!! WOW!
Peterwheeler1
Posted at 23:44h, 04 AprilHey Fil (Or anyone :P), I have a question, i’m not familiar with 50’s wiring, but would it work with a guitar that has only one volume control? Cheers,
Pete.
06AngusSG
Posted at 00:47h, 05 AprilI did a tutorial here for 50’s wiring but it was for “Standard” SG controls.
Not sure if there’s “50’s” wiring for single vol.
I could do some research and find out but I would need to know the whole configuration?
Examples:
1vol, 1tone & 3way switch
OR
1vol, 2Tone & 3Way Switch
Anyway Let me know what you have here and I would be glad to help. π
Peterwheeler1
Posted at 23:57h, 06 AprilSorry, I should have been more specific, I literally have one volume knob π so 50’s wiring may be out of the question…..I just want my guitar to clean up nicely when I roll back on the volume, I have very low output pickups (around 6.2K, or so it says) Would getting higher output pickups help with this?
Thanks for your time π
Pete.
Peterwheeler1
Posted at 23:59h, 06 April* I have one volume knob, no tone controls at all
06AngusSG
Posted at 03:34h, 07 AprilThe bummer thing is, you are right, there is no 50’s wiring for a “volume only” setup. The premise of 50’s wiring is, mainly, how the capacitor is connected between the vol. & tone pots.
As far as a higher output pickup goes I’m not for sure. It could go either way, as in: it could clean-up OR it could amplify the muddiness you’re getting now.
Maybe the pot resistance value could be changed out to help as well. (cheaper option to try too) π
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. π
BTW: Curiosity makes me wonder. What kind of guitar do you have? Is there room to “add” a tone pot to it? If so 50’s wiring could be done……
Jon
06AngusSG
Posted at 03:39h, 07 AprilSorry……one more thought.
(Depending on how adventurous you are)
From your comments it seems you have 2 pickups (Humbuckers???) with a single vol.
IF there’s room to add a tone pot. You could install “push/pull” pots and hopefully room for a switch and THEN you would be able to have a full LP/SG 50′ wiring. π
Just a thought though… π
Peterwheeler1
Posted at 00:52h, 08 AprilWell I have two V’s and i’ve removed the neck pickup on them so I can get more string vibration as I never used it anyway. One of them is one of the deepest sounding guitars i’ve ever heard π So they are literally one pickup one knob guitars. I guess I could try adding a tone pot to it, but I just don’t like fiddling around with all that stuff when i’m playing π
Thanks for your time π
Pete.
06AngusSG
Posted at 03:02h, 08 AprilI really like the deep tones that can be had from the V’s. π
They’re a cool guitar, I just can’t play them that well towards the end of the frets. (small hands π )
Anyway, here’s a link to a diagram made specifically for 50’s V wiring. It would require going back to 2 pickups but you’d get the clean-up you’re wanting out of it. π
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5264/5598850285_b4d3da4b09_z.jpg
Anytime, π
Jon
Peterwheeler1
Posted at 08:59h, 08 AprilThankyou! π I’ll give it a try, I have some guitars with a similar one tone one volume and switch going on, may try those too π
Cheers,
Pete.
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 00:47h, 02 AprilWhat kind of magnets does this pickup have, Alnico 2 ? And is it overwound?
ar2619Rob
Posted at 14:33h, 13 MarchI was never that in love with the look of the Korina until I heard it here some months ago but it was/is my favourite sounding of all the guitars of the Metro session. Do you have any details from the pick-up? (have checked Korina article, nothing there).
Hardrockerdave94
Posted at 00:01h, 05 NovemberHey Fil, just wondering, what do you prefer, your SGs or Les Pauls? I’m trying to decide which to get.
jakesg61
Posted at 17:39h, 15 OctoberOutstanding performance!, that made the hairs on my neck stand up! Truley brilliant, you are a very very tallented player Fil. Great tone too!
Aaron
Posted at 20:39h, 18 SeptemberI’m not sure what is hotter, your playing or the temperature in that room (by the looks of your shirt.)
KyleSG
Posted at 20:29h, 16 SeptemberWow that open solo sends shivers down my spine. So much tone and feeling……shredders eat your heart out!
Ryley
Posted at 19:11h, 16 Septemberthat tone is killerr! how do u like the guitar Fil?
Lemmiwinks
Posted at 16:52h, 16 SeptemberDo you have a jtm100 blackflag phil? I know one for sale from 67.and i think it would be THE amp for you:)
SoloDallas
Posted at 17:06h, 17 SeptemberThanks mate. But I said “no” to vintage amps. Too much to cope with. I’m going with replicas and possible, not 100 watters, they’re… louder!
adam10603
Posted at 16:26h, 20 SeptemberA 100W amp is only 3db louder (usually) than a 50W amp. Volume is not measured in watts, 100W is not twice as loud, only a little louder. by the way, the celestion V30s are really loud speakers. So a 50W head with V30s will be about at the same volume as a 100W trough greenbacks. So a 100W amp with this cab would be as loud as your 1987XL with the other cab you have.
adam10603
Posted at 16:29h, 20 Septemberbtw, you can take out two tubes of a 100W amp, then it will be 50W. That is a common technique. But if you put all 4 power tubes in, then you get not just a little (!) volume difference, but also a different tone. So a 100W amp is more versital than a 50W amp, i think.
Lemmiwinks
Posted at 16:35h, 23 Septemberunderstandable:) I,ve never possesed any 100 watts marshalls and for me even the 30 watts like the jtm is too loud for me. Now when Ive tryed out several amps other amps and Ive decided to go in to Orange amplifications. Im bought a Tiny terror for homeuse and advance later maybe into the bigger models.
Right now my Gretsch is in a shop for exchanging PU’s for real old filtertrons and some adjustments. CANT WAIT to get it back! since its my only electric guitar!
As soon as that happens I’ll maybe put on a videoresponse with it since my brother got a Mac computer today that I might get to borrow for recording and so on π
mdubya
Posted at 13:41h, 16 SeptemberSo what pick ups are in that Korina?
Malcolmyoung01
Posted at 12:01h, 16 SeptemberWhat’s that for a Trick with the PU at 0:59
HagusYoung
Posted at 07:24h, 21 Septemberjust a “flick of the switch” to middle position while having the neck PU’s volume fairly low π
Hardrockerdave94
Posted at 11:46h, 16 SeptemberI think this is probably your best tone yet, love that fedback at the start.
SoloDallas
Posted at 13:21h, 16 SeptemberBecause it was easier to play, i.e., the guitar having strong pickups. Therefore, you can hear it clearly, the amp saturates more and it is easier to sustain. All of my other guitars or most of them, have weak pickups, because they’re old: it gets really tough to play… π
Alex
Posted at 11:31h, 16 SeptemberThat pickup trick at 0:59, does it have a name?
Dries
Posted at 14:43h, 16 Septemberits just switching with your selector while holding the notes ..
thearmedmonkey
Posted at 09:42h, 16 SeptemberFirst reaction: WOW
Awesome Fil! Whenever I watch your clips it makes me pick up my SG and play!
You’re the man!
adam10603
Posted at 09:09h, 16 SeptemberThis ’50s wiring on the bridge pu. seems to be damn good. When you roll back the volume, it doesn’t cut the high end, so It’s really bright and sparkling. I feel that this mod is really necessary with my guitar, because when I roll back the volume, my amp cleans up really nicely BUT at the same time it looses tons clarity. The sound cleaned up by the volume know on the guitar is way too dark. I hope this wiring method in my guitar will help the amp a little. Btw, nice demo Fil! π And nice SG.
HagusYoung
Posted at 07:31h, 21 Septemberi wouldnt do that to my “AC/DC” – SG, because in Angus’s case he uses that thing, that from like 10-7 on the volume (depending on the pot) you just loose volume and below 7 you also loose the highend and get the bass in. Also very dependent on how the Pickup sounds. With a PAF style pickup its usally 10-7 just lower volume, 7-4 less highend more bass of course a drop in volume again, and finaly form 4-0 it gets bright again. But I can only speak of my guitars wich all have 500k pots and “bumblebee” caps. 50s wiring makes the volume to what it should be: a volume knob, dosnt kill a frequency when rolling it off. I tryed it but i dont realy need it, its a matter of taste ! π
skydog
Posted at 08:40h, 16 SeptemberMan….you’re absolutely one of my favorite guitar players… and I mean that as serious as a heart attack!!!
SoloDallas
Posted at 08:45h, 16 SeptemberYou have no idea how it pleases me to see you here. I always felt “connected” to you Danny π
skydog
Posted at 08:34h, 16 SeptemberThat sounds frickin’ KILLERMANJARO!!!!