30 Sep The Definitive “Back in Black” featuring an original Schaffer-Vega Diversity System (UPDATED!)
BREAKING NEWS!
Well, I was talking over the phone with my long time Italian-Canadian friend “Max” (he’s a member here too). Max has lived for decades with a 1959 replacing his own heart.
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Well you get the picture. Max told me “Fil, nice, but something still isn’t 100% right”. I knew this, I even wrote it down here, but I still couldn’t figure out why.
He told me the same old story: “Fil, take out stuff, as much as you can, no plugins, nothing. The sound HAS to happen with microphone, guitar and amplifier”.
He hadn’t implied that the SVDS shouldn’t be used, he just made sure I – once again – would understand that no equalizer in the world would work. Especially me having all the right gear – the very same actually likely used on that album, even including the microphone – I should be able to get it identical, without strange elements inside (talking about unwanted/excessย frequencies).
I had told him about the scooped mids thing, he asked what mids setting I was using on the amp and told me flat out “screw it Fil”. Laughs.
So the idea came to me that I should try without the SVDS (but WITH and ON the Celestions G12-65). Because in fact, the SVDS is a terrific clean boost with lots of mids!
And so, this very late afternoon I did.
And boy, there. Angus’ rhythm guitar was a 100% match, no things to take out with eq, nothing. Just guitar at 8, guitar TONE at 6, no SVDS on rhythm, G12-65s and a 1959 and it’s there. I was basically adding mids (SVDS) and then trying to take them out both at the amp settings AND a LOT with the post EQUALIZATION.
This one – SG, 1959 and G12-65s – ย was basically the ONLY combination I hadn’t tried; in fact, right when I installed the G12-65s the other day it came to me instinctively to put the SVDS on. I always play with the SVDS on now, I just can’t take it off lol.
Isn’t it always the same story? Don’t we end up finding what we wanted just at our latest attempt? Just like when you have several keys in your hand and only the last one is the right one! Damn!
Anyway. Will do shortly another video with the SVDS played only on solos and post it right here. So it will all stay documented (laughs).
To summarize shortly what I think happened likely on the WHOLE Back in Black album, Angus’ parts:
– Angus played rhythm without SVDS WITH the band, live takes. This rhythm guitar is always – or almost always presumably – on the right side of the stereo position.
– Angus overdubbed rhythm (center rhythm guitar WITH the SVDS)
– Angus overdubbed the solos WITH the SVDS
ย As you heard already in my latest video below, it is not SUCH a massive difference with or without the SVDS. Plus I love having the SVDS on at all times.
But for the sake of accuracy, truth and documentation, I wanted to make sure the community knew this
End of Update
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It’s a long story, and some of you followed me for a few years. So you know already.
I am not going to write it all from the beginning, also because everything has been documented here (luckily). So I’ll get straight to the point: it was The Schaffer-Vega Diversity System.
AND it was Celestions G12-65s. On Back in Black, that is. Someone had already thought about it – our own George aka SGAce (thank you George!).
So after months and months of trying in all possible ways – recently also with assorted Cetec-Vegas and eventually with an Original, Beloved Schaffer-Vega Diversity – also with an original Neumann U67 and hundreds of equalization curves tried, the last thing to try was those damn Celestions G12-65s.
I had bought an old couple (1979) last June, but hadn’t installed them yet. All of a sudden, days ago I rushed to put them in into an old 1971 cabinet. It now has two G12H30s and two G12-65s.
I didn’t put them crossed, just two on top (the G12H30s) and two on the bottom (G12-65s). I just wanted to have the chance to record easily choosing the type of speakers.
So I did, and it was definitely the missing, last link. Now, I don’t intend to say that my sound is identical 100% to Angus’ on that record. That record is still amazingly a work of art; almost un-replicable.
However, I really wanted to get as close as possible and after many, many attempts, this version is my definitive last one. I don’t think anything remains from being discovered, at least for this song.
So my findings (Angus only) are as follows:
Amplifiers used: Marshall 1959, both rhythm AND solo
Cabinet: at least one with G12-65s inside
Guitar: one of his Gibson SGs (or more).
What I used: my 1976 Marshall 1959 with an Aracom DAG Attenuator (what an amazing piece of gear that is).
One non-slanted cabinet with G12-65s in the bottom (see below for microphone position)
One single microphone used: Neumann U67 (Platt used two: an U67 and an U87).
For rhythm, a recently purchased Gibson SG Standard from 1968 (correct date). Vibrola removed (prior to my purchase). All original.
For solos, a 1971 Gibson SG Custom, all original.
A Schaffer-Vega Diversity System (SVDS). A video documentary on the Schaffer-Vega DIversity system will follow shortly.
Please watch the video if you made it reading thus far; will continue right below. ย While you’re at it, check the VU meter on the SVDS. And enjoy yourself
As you saw, the SVDS is made of a Transmitter (TX: the cream colored box attached to the front of my strap) and a Recevier (RX: friendly called by Mr. Schaffer himself “The Titanic”, as only these remain).
The TX sends the guitar signal after some cool audio processing (compression mainly, but not only) to the RX, which expands the compressed signal of some amount and then outputs the signal to the amplifier.
These were used both for microphones (Mick Jagger comes to mind) and guitar (countless guitar players among which, Angus Young).
Now, there are two outputs: one XLR output that was meant to simulate the cable (i.e., un-boosted signal but compressed) and an optionally boosted signal (front of the panel: Monitor Out with its own Volume to clean-boost), still compressed.
I used the latter output here, as I have been doing for quite a while since I found out. Not only it does clean boosts, but it also add some nice, strong mid range to the tone, particularly desirable on tube guitar amplifiers such as these very Marshalls.
So I did, and you hear the results.
Now, Back in Black though has a particular tonal characteristic that had eluded me for quite a while (all my life really, until recently): it is mid-scooped! That means, that the mids were literally “carved” i.e., they had been taken largely out of the EQ to make room for vocals, drums, etc.
I had never realized this so clearly until I worked AGAIN night and day on this. With all the right equipment now, I wouldn’t tolerate not getting at least in the credible sonic ballpark as the original.
So I worked and worked. Played with amplifier settings; moved microphone; played and recorded; added Equalization in post; and so on and forth.
I must have made hundreds of takes. Especially since I really realized that a specific, careful and almost unique microphone placement had to be the only way. So you place the mike carefully as you play some with the headphones (if you do it yourself and in the same room), then recorded, apply EQ and then realize it is off.
So you start all over.
I did this for I don’t know how long. And finally, I got content of what you heard is.
It is still not 100% dead on; Angus’ guitar has a sort peculiar character to it that I woud describe as “velvet” HMF (High Mid Freqs). Amazing taste on Mr. Platt’s and Mr. Lange’s part.
Maybe the joint use of an U87 would help out here, but I am content with this for now.
Because mostly it served to really prove down to 100% certainty that it was the SVDS in conjunction with all the other equipment to make it work. And this is what I wanted (besides the personal satisfaction of hearing a 98% correct tone while playing and listening back to it).
So the amplifier settings to mess around are as follows:
Presence: 0
Bass: 2
Mids: 2
Treble: 4
Volume 7 (rhythm) and Volume 10 (Solo).
Please keep in mind that this settings thing is really only worth it when recording. The microphone will capture the frequencies in a different way than our ears: additionally, the EQ one adds later will emphasize certain aspects and get rid of others. Such as in this case here.
Please see these few pics for microphone placement for this song:
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Please note: article in progress.
SoloBakersfield
Posted at 19:55h, 02 OctoberFil that video I posted earlier just goes to show that gear matters to a certain extent but its really about how you play. that guy on the youtube video was off on timing and messed up on the solo but had good gear haha I bet you put Angus on a Class 5 and he will still play and sound bad ass
adam10603
Posted at 19:32h, 02 OctoberI just wondered what was it like to have Angus himself here on the site as a member… ๐ Like one day, someone would write a comment:
Hello guys, Angus here
haha. wouldn’t that be cool? ๐
SoloDallas
Posted at 19:37h, 02 OctoberIt would. But none of us would believe it, and we’ tell him to f**k off right away. To begin with! He’d have to work hard for us to believe. I’d check IP provenance etc. Not an easy task for him even if he really wanted to! But I don’t think he’s an internet guy ๐
banane
Posted at 19:40h, 02 OctoberYes, indeed
Hopefully the server won’t get overloaded then 
Dave4433
Posted at 19:54h, 02 OctoberFirst thing I’d do would be ask him if he still has his SVDS and what’s the serial number on that one (if there is one ? Fil?) Then I’d like to see a collab video of him and Fil (not even in Fils wildest dreams, hehe ๐ )
depuis1899
Posted at 19:55h, 02 OctoberAngus here, that would be crazy, but like Fil said, he is very simple, so I don’t think he is often on the net ๐
jubaluba
Posted at 21:28h, 02 OctoberHe said in an interview that he got hooked on jigsaw puzzles after the Black Ice tour.
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 11:23h, 02 OctoberWhat is overdubbing?
Dave4433
Posted at 14:00h, 02 OctoberI believe it’s recording a part (guitar, drums, bass, vocals etc.) and then recording a part and placing it over previously recorded part so You hear both (or more) parts in the final track.
adam10603
Posted at 16:37h, 02 OctoberWhen you record a song with all the instruments playing in the same time (as AC/DC does), and THEN record a solo or something OVER the previously recorded song ๐
Roman
Posted at 10:31h, 02 OctoberExcellent fucking job ( insert hand clapping smiley)
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:36h, 02 OctoberRoman!!! You came to visit! SO Happy. How’s the beautiful baby daughter doing? Hugs, Fil
Roman
Posted at 10:38h, 02 OctoberHi Fil, yeah, I come out to visit every now and again.
I must say you nailed this one!!
The little one recently turned one year old, is running around, is mischievous and is getting to be more fun every day.
Yours??
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:41h, 02 OctoberHahaha. That little one
Mine SAME as yours. Turned one year old one day after yours, now trying to move the first steps and smashes herself dramatically on the floor. Moving, touching and fun at the same time lol A Big tight hug to Rist Family! 
Roman
Posted at 10:45h, 02 OctoberHa Ha. Yes, in the early stages of walking it is a nightmare for the father. We have no carpet either, just hard floors……….Fun Fun Fun!
All the best, I’m off to bed. Cheers!
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:46h, 02 OctoberYou sleep well
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:37h, 02 OctoberPS Ladies & Gentlemen, we have here an Historical (in the sense of Great, Superb, Knowledgeable, Gentleman and add more) Luthier here. Roman. He’s a TOP CLASS ACT.
banane
Posted at 10:39h, 02 OctoberHello Roman, and welcome here!
Roman
Posted at 10:41h, 02 OctoberThank you. (takes bow)
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:44h, 02 OctoberATTENTION US Members: IF I could recommend ONE single Luthier, that would be Mr. Roman Rist. You can find him HERE: http://ristguitars.com/
Please add this address to your bookmark. Thank you, The SoloDallas.net team ๐
SoloBakersfield
Posted at 07:32h, 02 OctoberFil I ran across this video on you tube they found pretty good Angus Tone but not so good playing but its worth watching tell me what you think heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgi2LdrJK0
SoloBakersfield
Posted at 07:43h, 02 Octoberits funny when he trys to play the lead
SoloDallas
Posted at 09:47h, 02 OctoberYes mate, they were featured also here at sd.net but weren’t very much welcome here. I find this comment id good (youtube) “The equipment couldn’t be better. But the tone you get is bad IMHO. I don’t know why… maybe you should try different mics and mic positions.๏ปฟ Try a large diaphragm condenser mic.
I personally like those guys!
Your final recording sounds like something is blown, or overloaded in your recording chain.”. And additionally, it was G12-65s
SoloBakersfield
Posted at 01:36h, 02 Octoberthnx for all the help, this is probably going to sound stupid but what are SVDs ? and what is the best cabnet for AC/DC? because im thinking about changing my 1960a cab. do cabs and tubes have a big effect on tone?
SoloBakersfield
Posted at 01:51h, 02 Octoberthnx for all the help, Never mind about the first question SVDs stands for shaffer vega diversity system which was Angus*s wireless right
RiffRaff
Posted at 01:13h, 02 OctoberIm thinking of putting Angus Youngs signature pickup in my Gibson SG Standard. I wonder if it’s worth it or not, can you hear any difference? I mean, they’re pretty cheap too, around 100 euros.
I use Guitar Rig 4 as amp.
banane
Posted at 01:16h, 02 OctoberYes, it’s worth it. Did the change in my 2009 SG standard. Much better match for Angus’ tone than the 490T.
RiffRaff
Posted at 01:18h, 02 OctoberAlright. I think i’ll go for it. I won’t change the pickup myself though, don’t know a shit about that. I know there are tutorials on how to do it, but I don’t wanna risk to fuck up anything, haha.
banane
Posted at 01:23h, 02 OctoberOh, its not difficult, but you should know how to work with a soldering iron
If you don’t better let someone else do it, yes.This guy is also a good address for a custom pickup: http://www.highorderpickups.com/
Can make pickups right to your own specs.
Guitarjosii
Posted at 23:08h, 01 OctoberMission ‘BIB-sound’ successful.
Next project: Get the Powerage-Sound?
SoloDallas
Posted at 23:18h, 01 Octoberlol yes. Listening to Powerage daily here. I think Powerage is easier though. We know for sure that they were 2203s in there. I think 2203s on – mostly – G12Ms. But naturally, I have to “prove it” ๐
Dave4433
Posted at 23:30h, 01 October“What we say will be forgotten tomorrow.
What we do to prove those words wili be remembered for centuries to come”
Dave4433
Posted at 23:33h, 01 OctoberI always screw up with these damn quotes, lol.
Can’t spell sh*t (excuse me now)
SoloDallas
Posted at 23:36h, 01 Octoberloool
rockn roll man
Posted at 18:45h, 01 OctoberHow much will the two type of Replica cost (about)?
write to me soon
your SVDS fan
banane
Posted at 18:50h, 01 OctoberLess than an original Schaffer-Vega ๐ But well, we don’t know it yet. We will have prototypes shortly, then we’ll have to check the production costs.
Please read also what Fil said in the comments here regarding the replica.
Thundersnook
Posted at 18:37h, 01 OctoberFil what are you doing?! xD I remember some vids ago that everyone, me included was sure that these videos cant be done better. In terms of tone and playing … but with this you taught us that it could! xD
To this video I would say: THATS IT! Its THE tone and THE style of playing It cant be better! … but I’m sure with the next video, you show me/us an even better one! xD
Greetings Fil! Grandmaster Of Tone!!
Neurotic Nick
Posted at 17:41h, 01 OctoberAMAZING!!! YOU NAILED IT!
Kinglance
Posted at 16:42h, 01 OctoberHey Fil!! Amazing efforts u are doing!! U are the king of this community!! Your Marshall SLP 1959 is that an original one or a replica? I read on Wikipedia that Angus uses a replica, I don’t know if this is correct? Would there be a lot of difference between an original one and a replica? Grtz!! J-L
SoloDallas
Posted at 16:59h, 01 OctoberMerci JL! Monsieur, I’ll gladly let you be the King. I’d rather think of myself as one “catalyzer” of this community. An “Archeologist” of classic rock. A Tone Chaser. A blogger, too?
The 1959 I used in this video is an original, 1976 untouched model. A “run of the mill” 1959 of the mid seventies.
To my own knowledge, Angus used originals back then (maybe even modified ones, though likely not that early).
Angus started using replicas more recently. Particularly, Angus (and Malcolm) use Wizards Amplifiers. These are not intended to be exact replicas of 1959 (or other models) Marshalls. The Wizards amps are what has come out of Mr. Rick St. Pierre – AC/DC current amplifier technician – been for the last 25 years! – after both the Young brothers had consistently asked Mr. St. Pierre to modify some original Marshalls of theirs. So the WIzard is actually a “hotter” Model 1959 with some additional “improvements & modifications”. We, at SoloDallas, will review a few of these models in the near future. Directly from the hands of Mr. St Pierre. Fil
Dave4433
Posted at 18:01h, 01 OctoberI see what You’re trying to do here. You’re trying to get all the people who had ever worked with AC/DC to work to You (lol!)
(First it’s Mr.Ken Shaffer, Mr. St Pierre’s next and then who ? Tony Platt?) Why not just ask the band to join in too while You’re at it ๐
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 18:56h, 01 Octoberif Fil gets the band on here, I will crap myself
SoloDallas
Posted at 19:37h, 01 OctoberDave: LOL. Who knows… (blinka-winka)
Angusrocks
Posted at 11:47h, 02 OctoberWow Fil, this is a really good message !!!
I`m very interersted in these Wizard amps. Amps built by the ACDCtechnian himself with ACDCspecs is always very interesting !!
RiffRaff
Posted at 13:54h, 01 OctoberAmazing.
Now im looking forward to some tutorials and to learn some of the licks you usually use. That’s one of the mainreasons why I joined this community
SoloDallas
Posted at 17:00h, 01 OctoberAll of this and then more, I’ll deliver to you.
Dave4433
Posted at 18:07h, 01 OctoberI believe You and I trust You, Fil. You indeed are a man of Your word and You’ve proven it and are yet to prove it an x amount of times more.
Time is now our biggest tormentor as we await the great things ahead of us with thrill and excitement =)
depuis1899
Posted at 09:25h, 01 OctoberI thought Angus used the SVDS all the time, not only for solos…
Something interesting again
Btw Fil, you said the Replica won’t be expensive…I tried a pedal a few days ago, a Wampler Plexidrive…and it was really amazing, but the price too…(205โฌ)
And I’m excited for the Replica to come out, you think it will be around that price, or even less?
I need a kind of boost and even just something to get a little cleancrunchy on my amp for bluesstuff etc
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:18h, 01 OctoberWell he did live, for example. And likely, he DID use it in the studio also for some rhythm tracks (I am listening more and more to “For Thos About To Rock” and to me it sounds like the whole album was played with the SVDS on every part!). We will find out for sure. And this time, by saying “we” I am implying you guys too. Once the replica will be out, you too will be able to experiment with it just like with the real thing. Therefore, you will be able to uncover exactly where was used or not used!
There will be two models (I’m uncovering too much detail here!!! lol).
A “special” one with the looks of the original one (Black box) which will be signed by Mr. Schaffer himself. Will be more expensive. And another model, likely a stomp box, a lot cheaper. SAME EXACT AUDIO circuitry, SAME SOUND. But one very similar looking to the original product, the other not.
Here. Happy now? ๐
depuis1899
Posted at 10:32h, 01 OctoberI listened to ” For Those About To Rock” a few days ago and had the same impression, more gain, and I guess for ” Blow Up Your Video ” too.
Hehe Fil, thanks ๐
Now I’ll try to be patient, but won’t be easy …
Ahhhrg, I’m too excited now…
I won’t buy that Wampler pedal, will wait for the Replica
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:36h, 01 OctoberYou know I have been conservative (i.e., careful) for all this time. Now I am telling you straight: SAVE your money. THIS will be the gadget to bring to you 100% faithful “golden era” AC/DC tone. And several other Rock tones of that era, too. Not limited to AC/DC only!
You are excited? *I* am excited. Been waiting all my life for something like this.
Fil ๐
depuis1899
Posted at 10:39h, 01 OctoberOh yeah, I’m sure you’re quite excited Fil… all these years you were searching, trying, and I’m really happy for you that you got almost to the final point ๐
I’ll save the money, don’t worry :), just have to convince my father to buy one as soon as it comes out lol
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 19:00h, 01 Octoberwill the one that is signed by Mr. Schaffer be wireless?
banane
Posted at 19:05h, 01 OctoberNo, no wireless in the replica. If you need a wireless, I would use a neutral (digital) wireless additionally.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 06:12h, 02 Octoberwhat do you mean by digital wireless additionally?
run the wireless into the SVDS Replica, and then into the amp?
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:13h, 02 OctoberUse the SVDS Replica just like a stomp box.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 17:10h, 02 OctoberI’ll just need go corded with my tribute band and have the stomp box off stage. Angus played with a cord through the Bon Era plenty of times ๐ it will just sound like I’m playing through the SVDS ๐
adam10603
Posted at 11:58h, 01 OctoberHow did you do the bold text? ๐
banane
Posted at 12:36h, 01 OctoberJust put your text between *asterisks*, I believe.
(comment sent the kids corner of a big shoe store. shopping tours, sigh)
banane
Posted at 13:06h, 01 OctoberOk, no asterisks. Don’t know then
adam10603
Posted at 18:34h, 01 OctoberOMG Fil ๐ good news! I can’t wait for it ๐
SoloBakersfield
Posted at 02:03h, 01 OctoberFil I need your help, I want to get some back up tubes for my jmp 2204 and I never changed tubes before, what kind of groove tubes should I get and what about the pre amp tubes ? and how should I tell the guy to biase it? sorry for all the questions Im new at changing tubes
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:24h, 01 OctoberMate, groove tubes for now (others please chime in help this fellow brother?). You MUST havr the amp biased by a professional tech
Angusrocks
Posted at 10:59h, 01 Octobera few years ago i sent an e-mail to Groove Tubes with the question of what kind of tubes ACDC are using.
They responsed : 4 E34ls Gold Series and
3 ax7 pre amp tubes, Gold Series as well !
SoloDallas
Posted at 11:04h, 01 OctoberDANKE for this!
Angusrocks
Posted at 11:31h, 01 Octoberyou`re welcome
What they also wrote was :
What a great bunch to work with !!!
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 12:29h, 01 OctoberI’d imagine!
But isn’t that for newer albums and such, is there no information what tubes and brands they used in past?
Angusrocks
Posted at 13:29h, 01 Octobermmmhhh…..no idea
LedSabbath
Posted at 00:38h, 01 Octoberos the volume given that of the guitar or the amp?
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:25h, 01 October7-8 ish on the guitar; guitar TONE KNOB 5! Forgot to mention in the article, sorry will add it up.
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 00:35h, 01 OctoberFil of some reasons is there another ”Solodallas” visable on the screen showing the people online last 5 minutes on the main page :/
SoloDallas
Posted at 10:26h, 01 OctoberHuh?
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 19:29h, 02 OctoberOh never mind, yesterday for some reason there was a ”twin” of you on the main page, one with the name Solodallas just like you.
In the members online square underneath the Lates Updates i mean. It was two Solodallas for some reason :/
adam10603
Posted at 22:20h, 30 SeptemberBTW Fil, why did you mic the amp in a way that the pictures show? Why didn’t you just went close, or a few-inch miking? This is almost like a room mic.
Or are the pictures showing a different setup?
banane
Posted at 22:37h, 30 SeptemberWell, to capture a part of the room sound too, to make the sound “wider” and get the right sound for this song. At least I believe so. Makes a lot difference. Mic placement is real rocket science.
I did a few test recordings with several mic distances with a Shure PG 27 condenser mic. Can post links if interested.
SoloDallas
Posted at 22:44h, 30 SeptemberBecause I tried it all ๐ Foolishly, I thought that that distance would make the cabinet breathe; I was wrong. What you see IS the setup used to record, exactly that. Distances actually are: 53cms from the mike membrane to the screw driver bit that goes inside the cab (centre of cone). Mike distance from right speaker/grill cloth is 33 cm. I thought I was “cool” doing such distances, only to find out later (I always learn my lessons though lol) that it was not needed. LOL ๐
Dries
Posted at 20:16h, 30 SeptemberWow. teriffic.
I’m so hard waiting on the SV replica. I’m soooo hoping it ‘ll sound good. First one to buy and test
In this bootleg, you can really hear the SV doing his work on angus’ intro solo. ( wow what a roaring A-chord )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eswj1ao4Ld8&feature=related
SoloDallas
Posted at 22:46h, 30 SeptemberMate, the replica will sound EXACTLY like the SVDS. This, or no replica will exist (not from me). It MUST SOUND THE EXACT SAME or no replica. This is the the very basis. I WILL ONLY SELL A REPLICA of the SVDS IF IT IS IDENTICAL (and we’re sourcing the very same components, so it should be ๐ ).
Dries
Posted at 00:17h, 01 OctoberWell, I’m really excited to get that sound. Really, respect mate for all that great work you did here and for setting up the backwards engineering plan of the SVDS.
Tried almost everything now to get that hollow, compressed and saturated sound, but… nothing came close.
Can’t wait to perform live with the replica. Now it makes all sense, the sound just has to be right from the source, what you can hear come of of the cab. Then just put a simple dynamic E906 mic in front of it and voila ! Great sound trough the pa speakers, without expensive mics.
http://i53.tinypic.com/a9kzgp.jpg
PS: do we see small cone centers on this miced speaker? That can be a 25 Watter? But they certainly used simple mics live. Sometimes even a sm58 like ( vocal mic ) on the cabs.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2q33pyr.jpg
SoloDallas
Posted at 22:49h, 30 SeptemberFantastic! YES, THAT is how the SVDS sounds. On a 2203 ๐
EDIT: Not sure 100% it is a 2203. With the SVDS, you’re never sure 100% lol. What I AM sure of though, is the SVDS.
You hear it because it is a “tougher, ROUNDER sound”. Not harsh ever. It’s gorgeous. It’s my sound
kg_fenderbender
Posted at 19:50h, 30 Septemberfor those about to rock……………… FIL SALUTES YOU!!!! ๐