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Something Magic, Here, Soon (Schaffer-Vega Diversity-Related)

24 May Something Magic, Here, Soon (Schaffer-Vega Diversity-Related)

I won’t say much.

Sometimes, a picture is worth more than words.

Directly from its Creator, to you, two original units – The Schaffer-Vega-Diversity System. Working.

 

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Fil "SoloDallas" Olivieri
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65 Comments
  • avatar
    OldSchoolRocker666
    Posted at 16:46h, 30 May

    My thoughts about Angus using the Vega is, if it sounded so good for him, why did he change to another unit at a point? Was it to ”raw”, complicated, unreliable e.t.c or what?

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 17:13h, 30 May

      Yes, also thought a lot about this. I think, he did it for the same reason why they change their amp models: for a different tone.

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    Kirk2000
    Posted at 23:09h, 28 May

    Awesome news Fil.. Did he have the schematics too? I guess that would be too much to ask.. Reverse engineering the old 80’s PC boards should be easy.. Your pedal unit with its gain should output a clean signal through any wireless system.. This should sound great through my Lectrosonics wireless set up. KIRK

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 23:15h, 28 May

      I didn’t dare ask yet. However, I did ask if he wants his name on the replica. If he wants to be involved, that is.

      He’s thinking about it.
      How’s that Lectro? Does it have a boost too?

      • avatar
        Dries
        Posted at 13:09h, 29 May

        My shure PG4 does have a boost function, it certain helps the amp drive a bit more.

        But, what I don’t understand, Angus always has had that fully overdriven ‘raw’ tone, with singing leads. When I want to let my bended strings sing so much, I must put a huge amount of gain in there ( live on stage ).
        But with so much gain, you must roll of the volume to about 1-2 to not be overwhelming in the band mix..

        And with a compressor, I’m losing to much dynamics and get to much unwanted noise, that’re all things Angus doesn’t seemed to had problems with?

        I’ve searched sooo long now to get a great live tone, just comming straight out of the amp, with no mics. I have a 1980 2204 marshall, with a few different improvement mods I made, but I’m certainly not satisfied with the tone yet..

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          banane
          Posted at 20:46h, 29 May

          Does your Transmitter have a sensitivity tuner?

          • avatar
            Dries
            Posted at 22:20h, 29 May

            No, ony a +10dB boost function. But when I boost the amp to much, it gets too distorted to play rhythm in the band.

            What I’m also sure of, is that when Angus played a solo back in the days, he not only turns his guitar volume up, but the pa man turned also up the guitar volume over the pa in some cases.

            • avatar
              SoloDallas
              Posted at 23:11h, 29 May

              That’s in fact why you have to keep your amp within 6 or 7, not more. Guitar volume though should work fine at clearing the sound. I have to tell you though that with strong, powerful pickups, it won’t. I just tried my AY signature with the Vega, and while it sounds killer, it won’t clean up at all, not even at 1.

              Won’t “clean up”, in the sense that it will never get really clean, however,the drive will go away quite much.
              I think this was more or less what was happening to Angus back then. Especially live.
              On records, he would really change the boost level if he had to play songs such as “Rock and Roll ain’t noise pollution”.
              But I guess he might have not even used the SVDS on rhythm there. We don’t know yet. Mr. Tony Platt is being asked this by Terry Manning – to my kind request – to try and understand if Mr. Platt remembers about rhythm tracking (whether it was or not used on rhythm while recording Back in Black).

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                Dries
                Posted at 23:39h, 29 May

                True.
                Live in paris for example, no Vega, and véry raw rhythm overdrive. But also sustaining leads… And that hollow tone on the dec 1976 record of ‘baby please don’t go’.
                His guitar cuts perfectly through the mix, with not too much distortion, but when he’s doing leads, the guitar is singing and full of dynamics. Both recordings aren’t done with the Vega,
                What the heck was he using back then?
                There must be a key element missing in the link between Guitar-chord-amp. Never heard a tone like that anywhere else !

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                  OldSchoolRocker666
                  Posted at 15:40h, 31 May

                  Can it be the pickups, the wiring or anything? Or could he have used standard wired pickups for some situations and pickups with 10k ohm for some others?

                  No vega, could he had used an pedal or anything, like a bluesbreaker? Sorry if this feels like naive thoughts i’t just random thoughts really.

                  is there a video where we can watch that particular show you mentioned, it could help, maybe there’s something missed no one have noticed?

                  seb :)

                  • avatar
                    Dries
                    Posted at 16:47h, 31 May

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrIiYi8ON8c

                    Live wire for example here. His rhythm tone is cutting so nice trough the mix, and there is plenty of drive. The solo has such a raw tone, maybe a bit dark voiced. But 2204’s and 2203’s are known to be super-bright ?

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q80c0TeVOXI

                    Here he has such a “hollow” tone, and he has no Vega here. Never heard a tone like that from just a guitar and a MV-marshall ( or non-mv .. )

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                      OldSchoolRocker666
                      Posted at 14:08h, 05 June

                      I think fil mentioned at some post that he played with the neck pickup in his earlier days alot, don’t know for sure.

                      It doesn’t make sense, why use the neck pickup if you have a modified bridge pickup? Maybe he used middle and treble toggle swich position alot more often than one could think, i think i’ve seen on some videos where he changes at some points between treble, middle and rythm position but i can’t claim this to be true, so i appologize if it’s not correct what i’am saying.

                      More Precence? He supposly changed the settings depending on the room?

                      Maybe he actually occacionaly used pedals like overdrive effect in SOME instances? Okey Angus isn’t exactly the pedal kind of guy but maybe he did use SOME effects for some certein times playing live?

                      Maybe he used an clean boost unit like a Bluesbreaker? Or anything else since he didn’t use the Vega as you said?

                      Different micing and mics?

                      The room they play in maybe?

                      Modified amps?

              • avatar
                currentpeak
                Posted at 00:03h, 01 June

                “Mr. Tony Platt is being asked this by Terry Manning – to my kind request – to try and understand if Mr. Platt remembers about rhythm tracking (whether it was or not used on rhythm while recording Back in Black).”

                WOW! Do you know Terry Manning personally, Fil?

                I admire his work – he produced and engineered some of my favourite albums like Rhino Bucket’s Get Used To It
                and couple of The Angels’ albums.

  • avatar
    Christoph
    Posted at 18:46h, 25 May

    Excuse me, i forgot the link:

    http://www.gn-szene.de/musik/jetzt-abstimmen-und-gewinnen-wer-soll-beim-stonerock-spielen/

    Hey guys! :-)

    I’m not sure how to start this post, but I’ve got a question to you all. My band ‘Johnny Fox’ (I postet a song in the user-vid section) has the chance to play at a small festival in Germany (that’s where I’m from). The problem is: We have to win a voting! So I’d be glad to get a little support by you, so that we could win. A vote for us is a vote for Classic Rock 😎 😀 ;D …if you know what i mean.

    This is the link where you could find the voting. There’s a small script-box where you just have to click for ‘Johnny Fox’ and then ‘Vote’ – ! :)

    I’d be very happy if some of you may help us. Thank you! :-)

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 21:06h, 25 May

      Voted. Ich drück Euch die Daumen! :)

    • avatar
      Christoph
      Posted at 13:21h, 26 May

      Thank you! Und danke schön banane ! :)

      It’ll be very hard to win.

      Fil, could you post this into the blog of this page? That may help… ;D :-)

      Greets from Germany. ! : )

      • avatar
        Ant
        Posted at 13:28h, 26 May

        my vote casted :)

      • avatar
        Devil'Fingers"
        Posted at 14:37h, 26 May

        One more from me! Good luck

        • avatar
          depuis1899
          Posted at 18:05h, 26 May

          Voted, ca 70 stimmen hintendran ;), ihr könnt es noch schaffen 😉
          GL

  • avatar
    Christoph
    Posted at 18:45h, 25 May

    Hey guys! :-)

    I’m not sure how to start this post, but I’ve got a question to you all. My band ‘Johnny Fox’ (I postet a song in the user-vid section) has the chance to play at a small festival in Germany (that’s where I’m from). The problem is: We have to win a voting! So I’d be glad to get a little support by you, so that we could win. A vote for us is a vote for Classic Rock 😎 😀 ;D …if you know what i mean.

    This is the link where you could find the voting. There’s a small script-box where you just have to click for ‘Johnny Fox’ and then ‘Vote’ – ! :)

    I’d be very happy if some of you may help us. Thank you! :-)

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