Thanks Ant, we are almost finished with If You Want Blood and this one sounds 100X better than this one. It is much tighter. I’m just waiting on Junior for the vocals.
Nice production there, man. Solo was pretty good! but I agree with you, timing at times seems a bit off (it must be tough playing all the instruments track by track).
The singer, very Bon-ish!
Cheers
It was, I’m very curious as to how AC/DC recorded this song after doing it by myself…When I recorded it, I would lose the sound of the click track because my amp was sooo loud and I don’t have anything to separate myself and my amp…The 100W Plexi was on 6-7 for this
I’ve always thought AC/DC records as a band the rhythm part, and Angus layers the solo later, but I’m not sure either.
Maybe one thing you can try is play the backing track on headphones? I’d think you can still hear the amp pretty well.
But AC/DC didn’t play with backing tracks..
If you overdub a solo over the rhythm track, this happens in the “control room” of the studio, no amp sounds, only miced.
right, AC/DC wouldn’t have used backing tracks… They had a control room and it separated them from the amps. The beginning is what was weird for me…I wasn’t sure if I should do the drums first or the guitars and I did the guitars first…Maybe I should’ve done the drums first.
Me and Junior are going to do If You Want Blood next and that one should be A LOT tighter timing wise
exactly, I usually do do the drums first but I wasn’t sure how to do it with the beginning starting with guitars and how long do I do the drum roll on the floor tom. I couldn’t figure it out when listening to the studio album. They might have had Phil listen to a metronome and had him roll for a certain amount of measures and than crashed and went into the song.
really?! I did not know that…So metronome’s weren’t around in the 70s…Wow, I learned something new today…I have a feeling the band recorded Riff Raff and maybe the whole Powerage album all in one room together. We would have to hear the original to hear if there is bleeding.I find it hard to believe that AC/DC recorded a song like Riff Raff track-by-track/person-by-person without any kind of metronome. It sounds so fricken tight …They had to have done it as a band with all of them in the same room
but even when tapping your foot, they need to be so exact and so perfect for the band to lock in with Phil Rudd using no metronome is amazing if that’s how they did it.
That is possible rjofig but I don’t hear any clip or change in the recording from the hum of the guitars into the songs.It sounds like they just played through it…I don’t know much, actually anything about recording with tape so maybe someone else would know if it would sound as smooth if they put in the intro in front of everything/edited in.
This istn’t done person by person, thats just the point. The whole band is in one room and lays down the backing track, on some tracks Angus does the solo even directly on the same take, so the whole song is a “one take”. Backing vocals etc. are done later.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 17:40h, 07 July
That was the answer I needed!!! Is that how all the bands recorded in that time period?
currentpeak
Posted at 19:45h, 09 July
Only the great ones! 😀
As it has been told a couple of times already (and Mark Evans mentions this in his book, too) – within the first week the band used to record the backing tracks (all members in one room, Phil never used metronome/click track – as the guys say, he is the metronome :)) and after that Angus used to record the solos in the second week and also vocals and backing vocals were done.
Had that honor to personally meet (along with other rock legends) Mark Evans 2 weeks ago – what a cool guy he is!
Well here’s another one of my covers…1 or 2 timing issues I hear but other than that the recording is decent for me. 42 Decibel’s singer wanted to do something with me so I picked this song for us to cover. I’m playing all the instruments.
Ant
Posted at 14:25h, 13 Augusti loved it 😀
very enjoyable to watch, yeah couple of timing issues but who cares it rocked! 😉
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 23:00h, 13 AugustThanks Ant, we are almost finished with If You Want Blood and this one sounds 100X better than this one. It is much tighter. I’m just waiting on Junior for the vocals.
rjofig
Posted at 14:26h, 05 JulyNice production there, man. Solo was pretty good! but I agree with you, timing at times seems a bit off (it must be tough playing all the instruments track by track).
The singer, very Bon-ish!
Cheers
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 18:07h, 05 JulyIt was, I’m very curious as to how AC/DC recorded this song after doing it by myself…When I recorded it, I would lose the sound of the click track because my amp was sooo loud and I don’t have anything to separate myself and my amp…The 100W Plexi was on 6-7 for this
rjofig
Posted at 18:44h, 05 JulyI’ve always thought AC/DC records as a band the rhythm part, and Angus layers the solo later, but I’m not sure either.
Maybe one thing you can try is play the backing track on headphones? I’d think you can still hear the amp pretty well.
Dries
Posted at 22:05h, 05 JulyBut AC/DC didn’t play with backing tracks..
If you overdub a solo over the rhythm track, this happens in the “control room” of the studio, no amp sounds, only miced.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 22:56h, 05 Julyright, AC/DC wouldn’t have used backing tracks… They had a control room and it separated them from the amps. The beginning is what was weird for me…I wasn’t sure if I should do the drums first or the guitars and I did the guitars first…Maybe I should’ve done the drums first.
Me and Junior are going to do If You Want Blood next and that one should be A LOT tighter timing wise
rjofig
Posted at 23:52h, 05 JulyI’d think drums first works best; it’s hard to get the groove right without drums.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 05:48h, 06 Julyexactly, I usually do do the drums first but I wasn’t sure how to do it with the beginning starting with guitars and how long do I do the drum roll on the floor tom. I couldn’t figure it out when listening to the studio album. They might have had Phil listen to a metronome and had him roll for a certain amount of measures and than crashed and went into the song.
Dries
Posted at 08:09h, 06 Julyno click tracks in those days mate, just the band feeling.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 08:41h, 06 Julyreally?! I did not know that…So metronome’s weren’t around in the 70s…Wow, I learned something new today…I have a feeling the band recorded Riff Raff and maybe the whole Powerage album all in one room together. We would have to hear the original to hear if there is bleeding.I find it hard to believe that AC/DC recorded a song like Riff Raff track-by-track/person-by-person without any kind of metronome. It sounds so fricken tight …They had to have done it as a band with all of them in the same room
Ant
Posted at 14:10h, 06 Julytap your foot instant metronome 🙂
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 20:07h, 06 Julybut even when tapping your foot, they need to be so exact and so perfect for the band to lock in with Phil Rudd using no metronome is amazing if that’s how they did it.
That is possible rjofig but I don’t hear any clip or change in the recording from the hum of the guitars into the songs.It sounds like they just played through it…I don’t know much, actually anything about recording with tape so maybe someone else would know if it would sound as smooth if they put in the intro in front of everything/edited in.
Dries
Posted at 10:18h, 07 JulyThis istn’t done person by person, thats just the point. The whole band is in one room and lays down the backing track, on some tracks Angus does the solo even directly on the same take, so the whole song is a “one take”. Backing vocals etc. are done later.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 17:40h, 07 JulyThat was the answer I needed!!! Is that how all the bands recorded in that time period?
currentpeak
Posted at 19:45h, 09 JulyOnly the great ones! 😀
As it has been told a couple of times already (and Mark Evans mentions this in his book, too) – within the first week the band used to record the backing tracks (all members in one room, Phil never used metronome/click track – as the guys say, he is the metronome :)) and after that Angus used to record the solos in the second week and also vocals and backing vocals were done.
Had that honor to personally meet (along with other rock legends) Mark Evans 2 weeks ago – what a cool guy he is!
rjofig
Posted at 14:55h, 06 JulyOr maybe they recorded the intro separately from the rest of the song?
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 09:01h, 01 JulyWell here’s another one of my covers…1 or 2 timing issues I hear but other than that the recording is decent for me. 42 Decibel’s singer wanted to do something with me so I picked this song for us to cover. I’m playing all the instruments.
Hope you like it…It isn’t perfect unfortunately 🙁