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Playing with self-made backing track – Updated

19 Oct Playing with self-made backing track – Updated

Little update as of Oct. the 19th 2010.

I am always experimenting as soon as I have a minute available, so I tried what follows.

Now, one thing that also intrigues me immensely is “Powerage” and LTBR tone. Both of them.

So I replayed rhythm and re-soloed this track trying to capture a bit of that spirit, although re-listening to this it sounds more Flick of the Switch-ish probably. Don’t know, can’t say. The delay I put on the solo guitar was meant to be more LTBR-ish.

Now, the interesting – maybe – thing is the fact that I think Angus on LTBR was “overloading” the input channel of his amplifier somehow. NOT with a distortion pedal, but more with pure “volume boost”, so basically a unit of some sort (might be already the Schaffer-Vega Diversity Systtem, that had a “boost” feature on the unit that would in fact “volume boost” the input signal). Might have been anything. So what I did, is to use a pedal I have (and will show to you) that has “volume boost” only, NO gain! No dirt here: just volume. It’s the same as the famous “Klon” pedal, which I also have and tried prior to this other one. But this one is a little more “colored” and I liked it more.

I used the lower input of my 2203 (the 100 watt Master Volume Lead) and blasted the volume of the pedal to overload the Marshall input signal. This is the result, both on the rhythm guitars and the solo.

A lot more has to be experimented here. The cabinet I used this time is a different one. Remember my reissue cabinet 1960B? Well, I always said it was loaded with V30s (Vintage 30s, 65 watts) but it wasn’t, fool me. It was reissues greenbacks! They’ve always been in there for all these years and I had no idea lol. So anyway I opened up the cabinet and loaded it with 1977 Rola (blackbacks) G12Ms (25 watts) from 197something. This is also what it sounds like ๐Ÿ˜€

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I replayed the solo (dallas) thing, with a different guitar and slightly different settings. Wanted to grasp a little more vintage vibe and used the ’71 (I also replayed the bass line).

Also, I am about to start shooting tutorials again,ย so this is a little experiment with the camera (another one) the sync and so on. Seems it’s worked well.

Additionally, you know I tend to be as “transparent” as possible, because as I experiment and study further, I kind of “want to do it with you” and so here I am in all my goofy-ness.

Heh.

I haven’t “mastered” the audio here, so this is what it sounds like right after bouncing it to the disk. The “mastering” process is additional sound editing that’s usually done by the record producers. There are a number of compression and equalization processes that are done. I usually use the plugin “iZiotope” to do it, but I was afraid that it wouldn’t sync with the video after further processing, and so I left it “as is”.

I think it resembles – intentionally – a bit of Let There Be Rock (soundwise) at times. It’s milliseconds of resemblance (laughs). Especially for the lead guitar, the way I dialed it in (intentionally).

This isย an initial setup for further videos – I will use much better framing and positioning of the camera, I think it may work (what do you think). Naturally the tutorials will be more close up on the guitar.

Video:

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In circa an hour time, you can do lots of things with this gear. You, me, all of us.

This has been played with the MV 100 watt. Great amp. Guitars all all the same, Angus Young Signature. So to test the things a bit together. Heh.

Recorded with the AT4047, close up, literally attached to the centre of the speaker.

Backing track (for you to mess with, exercise, practice: HAPPY HALLOWEEN!)

Is it AC/DC-ish? Oh I don’t know. You decide ๐Ÿ˜›

Let’s try this: LINK to the above file. Does it work (to download)?

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147 Comments
  • avatar
    Dave4433
    Posted at 13:51h, 20 October

    Now that was a great track ! It really did sound more overdriven and more Flick of a Switch-ish.(that’s just me, telling what I’ve heard)

    Say, Fil, are You planning on posting some tutorials allready ?

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      Dave4433
      Posted at 13:53h, 20 October

      Re: more Flick of a Switch-ish: correction, maybe more like Fly on the Wall

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    LeroyKincaid
    Posted at 13:15h, 20 October

    Haha, got my laugh for the day when I read you found out they were Greenbacks. That’s funny.
    Sorry to rub it in Fil. I wouldn’t have admitted that!

    I like the tone in these clips. With the slight reverb, Fly on the Wall comes to mind. Let there be Rock too.

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 14:56h, 20 October

      Right, so much for “you got golden ears, Fil”, right? lol
      I HAVE to tell the truth. Always, ALL ways. Wouldn’t be fair nor fun otherwise. Yours always, Fil ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    Kinglance
    Posted at 12:57h, 20 October

    Love your sound a lot! I want more self-made rhythms :p I think this is the best solo (the last one) of all your performances on this backing track. Really raw AC/DC, great, pure magic! I think against end of the week my ideas will be on Soundclick, I’m still busy with perfectioning them. Gr J-L

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    banane
    Posted at 09:25h, 20 October

    Cant hear it yet, Sonja (stepdaughter) not at school today, sleeping til noon as usual :)
    About the speakers, I have G12T-75 in my cab now, do you think there is a huge difference to the Greenbacks, Fil?

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    gokuangus
    Posted at 05:09h, 20 October

    hey Fil, would it be ok with you if i were to upload a video of me playing along to the track you posted here to you tube? Seeing as how it is your work, i completely understand if your not confortable with me uploading it.

    Your bud,

    Lorenzo.

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 09:21h, 20 October

      Lorenzo, OF COURSE!

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    adam10603
    Posted at 00:05h, 20 October

    Fil,
    You totally made my day ๐Ÿ˜€ I’ve been laughing for 10 mins now. ๐Ÿ˜€ You didn’t notice you had greenbacks instead of V30s. ๐Ÿ˜€ that’s funny. btw, how do the reissue greenbacks compare to the old ones ? Thats’s an interesting thing that I want to know, because I have reissue greenbacks in my cabinet. What do you think of them ? :)

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 00:09h, 20 October

      ๐Ÿ˜›

      Adam, it’s like they were two completely different models. Two worlds apart. If I had to install new ones now, I’d go for a clone named “scumback”. They’re a lot closer to “broken in” greenabacks than current reissues. Which explains why I didn’t like them much. But the reissue greenbacks are STILL excellent speakers! Do NOT get me wrong. I am literally talking about super elite thinking here, where I am willing to reproduce closely sounds of the past and great sounds, too. Everything has to be seen under that light when I talk about gear.

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        adam10603
        Posted at 00:18h, 20 October

        you should do a post about speakers, when you will receive your G12H30 cabinet (or you already have it?). :) A post about speakers would be great :) including the reissue greenbacks, the G12H30, and couple of the old greenbacks. Of course with soundclips with the same amp and guitar, but with all the different speakers. Maybe you should put in an article about Angus’ speakers in it. Thats good stuff for a new post.

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          SoloDallas
          Posted at 00:21h, 20 October

          And Adam, THAT is exactly the plan :)

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            adam10603
            Posted at 00:23h, 20 October

            Good to hear it. :) I can’t wait for that post. … since we are in the same time zone, I must say good night for now. :)

    • avatar
      adam10603
      Posted at 00:10h, 20 October

      celestion is being very proud of the reissue speakers. It says on the speaker: “This loudspeaker is the original G12M specification” :) What do you think about this sentence? Maybe they are different, but do you think it’s just the matter of years ? Of course a new speaker won’t sound like a 40 year old one. Maybe the original greenbacks sounded the same when they were new. What do you think? :) maybe we should test them out 40 years later (laughs) :)

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        SoloDallas
        Posted at 00:19h, 20 October

        Hehe, likely possible. I don’t know, I really don’t. Would you believe it, your thinking was mine 2 minutes ago (what if…) and it has been the question for me for years. I think that what *I* like is the broken in feeling. I like usually, things well used, especially musical instruments. They are just looser, and they tend to sound “more interesting” to me. But we’ll get back to this post in 40 years and finally, find out! Only thing, in 40 years I’ll be 82 and much likely – if not dead already (likely!) deaf for sure 100%

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    286luca
    Posted at 23:50h, 19 October

    this new version remember me “D.T.” , i think this sound is very similar to the sound of that song!

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 23:55h, 19 October

      Then, I FAILED (laughs)

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    tjtristan
    Posted at 22:59h, 19 October

    Like the video, although you are even using less gain than angus in his songs (i think), but sounds great!
    But how do you connect your guitar to your pc? with an Normal audio plug to USB cable and an USB soundcard or something? I would really like to know because i have a cable like that now but there’s only buzz coming from it… (connected to normal usb port)

    • avatar
      tjtristan
      Posted at 23:00h, 19 October

      LOL, i am just seeing that you recorded it with a regular amp and a mic, sorry for the question xD, but you used guitar rig before right?

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        SoloDallas
        Posted at 23:02h, 19 October

        Hehe no worries man, YES, I have used modelers a lot and will continue to do so when I can’t use real amps. I use an external soundcard. There are tons right now good and better than mine; I use a “Digidesign” (now Avid) Mbox2 Pro.

  • avatar
    Dillon
    Posted at 20:24h, 19 October

    I love how in the video you get right into the song. You can feel the timing of everything and all that. It usually takes me like 1 minute into the song to get moving.

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 21:43h, 19 October

      But that’s why I kick myself moving in all directions and not caring anymore about my ugly expressions. And it is exactly why I gave the site the payoff “emotional learning”. Let go. Let go controlling your timing, pouring all your energies into timing and touch. There is really nothing else to it. And THANK YOU for your appreciation :)

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        SGACE
        Posted at 22:33h, 19 October

        There is only one word for this…… WICKED
        ……….. in evening I was holding my daughter and listened to this video.. at the end of it she said ( she is only 24 months old ) again again… and this was A surprise. At the end we listened it together for about 4 times in a row… LOL

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          SoloDallas
          Posted at 22:49h, 19 October

          HA! That was cool!!! So you have a “she” who’s 24 months!!! My boy is 30 months old!!! Today he came in the laboratory as I was trying some things and said “nah, too loud dad”. I thought “damn”. *Ahem*. Lovely. Just lovely George :)

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          banane
          Posted at 22:53h, 19 October

          Thats cute :) Maybe its time for the first guitar then ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        Dillon
        Posted at 19:56h, 20 October

        One thing i have noticed about myself is that i do the facial expressions as well. I hadn’t noticed this until a few weeks ago when i actually started recording my own videos. My brother said i look awful but i don’t care. its something that will remain with me forever :)

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    davidon66
    Posted at 19:21h, 19 October

    http://soundcloud.com/davidon66/solodallas-backtrack

    I had to try it :) . Thanks again , played by a fender replica and i tried to make a marshall tone or a tone which i like through guitar rig

  • avatar
    alienw9
    Posted at 16:21h, 19 October

    I really love this song :DDDD

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    gokuangus
    Posted at 11:04h, 19 October

    Hey Fil. Thanks a lot for putting the backing track as a download. im really enjoying playing along to it. Its great for practice. I already recorded myself playing over it. Its not too shabby if i say so myself. lol. More backing tracks please!

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 11:08h, 19 October

      Re: more backing tracks: YES. This will be one of the primary scopes of solodallas.net: Quality backing tracks. These could be bands related or original (made by me). But they will be available on a regular basis as soon as the site progresses

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        rjofig
        Posted at 14:49h, 19 October

        Fil, I’m really glad to hear that backing tracks will be a focus – really very helpful for people like myself who are trying to ramp up their playing. What do you use for the drum track? Wait, can you enlist help from fellow drummers/bassists there for some of the tracks – that’d be awesome.

        Great video, thanks for sharing – they’re always an inspiration to grab a guitar and play, practice, enjoy and have fun :)

        cheers

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          SoloDallas
          Posted at 15:51h, 19 October

          For Drum tracks I am trying to only use real grooves i.e., real drummers’ loops. That’s what you hear here. Now, the idea of enlisting drummers is in my mind at full blast. I’m going on a limb here, but my idea is to extend this place to other instruments, in time. Thing is, we will only “allow” great musicians to contribute to backing tracks. By saying great musicians, I am meaning solely, “careful to timing”. Timing, timing and then, some timing. Could be a song in my mind. Timing.

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            dubsharayko
            Posted at 01:33h, 20 October

            I’d be game for that. Phil Rudd has had a great influence on my drumming and right now I’m finishing up my little home studio; recording drum tracks/videos would be cool.

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              rjofig
              Posted at 02:58h, 20 October

              Cool; I think it’ll be great if (I mean, when) quality collaborative backing tracks begin to emerge here.
              cheers

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              SoloDallas
              Posted at 09:22h, 20 October

              You are a drummer???

      • avatar
        headwhop26
        Posted at 16:46h, 19 October

        That makes me so happy, there are so many backing tracks out there that lack any sort of character

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    solocali
    Posted at 02:59h, 19 October

    hey fil I found 2 jmp 50 watts one was a 1977 and the other is a 1976 do you know if there is difference between the two? thanks so much for helping me you saved me from buying a jtm :] this my first time buying a plexi before I had a jcm 2000 but like I have heard you say before gain ruins tone

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      SoloDallas
      Posted at 08:26h, 19 October

      There’s a difference, grab the 1977. There was a change in circuit from 1976 to 1977 because of which the 1977 sound more aggressive and therefore, more AC/DC

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    06AngusSg
    Posted at 01:43h, 19 October

    Hey Fil,
    Thanx for the mp3 e-mail. Works perfectly. I’ll have to experiment with it and perhaps try to make my own. I’d love to hear your opinion and/or constructive critisism on my playing. The video is AWESOME!!! I can’t wait for the tutorials to come.

  • avatar
    Ryley
    Posted at 01:05h, 19 October

    i cant seem to download ur backing track Fil…

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    KyleSG
    Posted at 00:28h, 19 October

    Whats that spray in the can that you have there and I think you used on your guitar in a video not long ago?

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 00:40h, 19 October

      Oh finally, thanks, now I remember questions about that. Well they call it “CRC” here. It’s oil. I use it as string oil, when they are too dry or a bit rusted. I spray that over, it helps a lot.

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        KyleSG
        Posted at 03:01h, 19 October

        Ah string oil thanks :)

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        rjofig
        Posted at 14:58h, 19 October

        Ah, seems pretty helpful, my strings get dry and rusty fast, I end up changing them probably more often than needed.
        Anyone recommend a product like this that might be available in the US? Thanks in advance :)

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          banane
          Posted at 17:42h, 19 October

          I have a “string conditioner” from dunlop here. Didnt used it yet. And I heard some other musicians that gun oil would be fine too.

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    adam10603
    Posted at 20:50h, 18 October

    I tried your backing track… here are the results:

    http://soundcloud.com/adam10603/improvisation

    I used amplitube 3. settings: marshall JMP 100W amp model + 4×12″ Greenback cabinet + U87 off axis and U67 on axis + EQ + reverb. Sounds like a BiB patch, but it’s not. The EQ is different. But it’s still a very nice Angus tone. and btw, the guitar I used was a Vintage VS6 SG copy (really nice guitar for its price)

    cheers :)

    • avatar
      adam10603
      Posted at 20:52h, 18 October

      If it doesnt play my track, that is because I just finished uploading. I think the site needs some time to process it… maybe check it later ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      davidon66
      Posted at 22:32h, 18 October

      hi adam i just have a question(or two :D) : is soundcloud free ? and can i upload just audio files there ? thanks.

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        adam10603
        Posted at 22:35h, 18 October

        absolutely! Just register & upload. It’s like youtube ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          adam10603
          Posted at 22:37h, 18 October

          …but with audio instead of video.

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            davidon66
            Posted at 22:41h, 18 October

            thank you very much … oh and i so on that web site a hungarian comment are you from Hungary ? cos it would be cool cos i can speak that language …

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 15:59h, 19 October

      Adam,
      only had time to listen to it now. It’s excellent. When I hear modelers again, I tell myself “see, it still sounds good”. You know I have used extensively modelers, now I’m back into real amps again, but boy, is this tone “good”. Lovely playing too!

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        adam10603
        Posted at 17:02h, 19 October

        Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜€ But please note that I used a Vintage VS6, which is just an SG copy. It would sound a lot better with a real Gibson. And please consider me as a beginner :) I’m only 17.

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          rjofig
          Posted at 20:58h, 19 October

          From this sound clip, seems to me you’re way past beginner already :) nice playing.

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    headwhop26
    Posted at 19:14h, 18 October

    I cant download the link, but Im just going to bookmark it and play along later. Ive watched the video five or six times already.

    Really fantastic– seeing these videos just makes me want to run home and grab my guitar. Some of the little jigs and licks in there are pretty darn groovin.

    I’d love to see a small tutorial on how to improv and solo like this, because I feel like Im halfway there, but cant quite make it soar like you do.

    • avatar
      rpatzelt
      Posted at 20:10h, 19 October

      Maybe this will help you out…

      DOWNLOADING TRICK

      Most media files embedded into a web page, once played, goes into a temporary directory belonging to your browser. In my case (Iโ€™m using Opera and Vista) the directory is located at โ€œC:\Users\Radu\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera\cache\sesnโ€. There I can find a lot of files (i.e. โ€œopr1U2AH.tmpโ€. Just find larger files, change the extension from โ€œtmpโ€ to flv (if you expect a video) or โ€œmp3โ€ณ if you expect an audioโ€ฆand this is it.

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    ar2619Rob
    Posted at 15:33h, 18 October

    Excellent audio and video quality, particularly full screen. Look forward to the forthcoming tutorials.

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    Dave4433
    Posted at 14:09h, 18 October

    AH! Yes! Finally a video! ๐Ÿ˜€

    I think it is now safe to say that Your tutorials are going to be more than superb compared to what they used to be (with such audio/video quality). Just make sure You allways keep them in sync (‘k?) like this one. :)

    Other than that this one was a real fun tune (I’m sure it was even more fun to play) kept me tapping my feet and bouncing my head a bit ๐Ÿ˜€

    Looking forward to Your tutorials !

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      Dave4433
      Posted at 14:15h, 18 October

      And Thank You for the download link.

      • avatar
        SoloDallas
        Posted at 18:04h, 18 October

        Anything for “us” here.

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