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Night prowler example recorded

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    Dries
    Posted at 17:27h, 30 June

    Indeed just as recording tool.. Much better as the pc’s line in.

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    Dries
    Posted at 16:16h, 30 June

    First time I tried to capture a decent guitar tone from my 2204 + 1960tv cab. Recorded in stereo with different amp settings, and all with a gretsch my sig.

    Signal path: amp – cab – sm58 mic – mixing panel – guitar rig – laptop

    What do you guys think of it?

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      banane
      Posted at 16:30h, 30 June

      Really a great tone. Maybe it could take a bit more pre-amp? What are your amp settings there?

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        Dries
        Posted at 17:33h, 30 June

        Amp settings are pretty straight forward. I’ve modded the amp to sound a bit less bright. Presence 4-5, Bass 1 , middle 5, treble 5-6.
        Master was on 3 and pre-amp around 7.

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          banane
          Posted at 17:58h, 30 June

          Ah yes, I’m very used to the brightness of my 2204, probably I’m missing it here. But Pre-amp on 7 should be enough for the HWTH tone, I’m also on 6-7 for this.

          But beside this, the tone is really great. Warm and smooth, but yet aggressive. Like it a lot! Could you provide a longer sound example? ๐Ÿ™‚

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            Dries
            Posted at 10:37h, 01 July

            http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=996754

            Recorded again night prowler, but it needs still more treble I think. Also recorded a single part of gone shootin’, it’s too dark. But it sounds good ๐Ÿ˜‰

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              banane
              Posted at 10:52h, 01 July

              Well, the night prowler record is very, very good. Still listening to it, love it! And I think the treble is just right here. Yes, gone shooting is too dark and a bit too gainy. But good playing there, very good timing, makes me jealous ๐Ÿ™‚
              All in all, that tone makes me thinking about buying a 1960tv cab. Have a 1960A with G12T75 now. Did you buy yours as a new one? Did it need a break-in?

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                Dries
                Posted at 11:27h, 01 July

                Its really the first time my amp sounds that good. after I’ve modded it. But I’ve also experimented with finding the sweet spot of the pole pieces. That helped alot getting the right crunch.

                It’s a 1960tv cab from the early 90’s, so the speakers are englisch made celestions and allready broken-in ๐Ÿ˜‰ But it doesn’t sound that different with a 1960 ax cab with new speakers.

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                  banane
                  Posted at 11:40h, 01 July

                  Thats interesting, what did you change in the amp? But yes, I can say that it really sounds good.

                  Well, I’m looking around for other speakers (used G12M25), but had no luck so far. But when I hear this, it seems to me that I’ll also be happy with a brand new 1960tv or 1960ax. I’m yet a bit unsure about the “speaker break in” thing, some people say its important because new speakers sound harsh, and some other people say it doesnt matter.

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                    Dries
                    Posted at 12:07h, 01 July

                    I’ve installed the lar-mar ppimv, but all the clips are recorded with the ppimv fully open ( master at 2-3 ). Also changed the input resistor to 68kohm ( classic marshall value ) and removed the 2 treble peaking circuits.
                    The 3 50+50ยตF filtercaps are also replaced. The amp is biassed fairly hot.

                    The sound would be not much different if I recorded them with the new greenbacks. They sound both great, but the old ones do better, if you listen closely. The best deal is to chech the net frequently, there are often very cheap 1960’s with greenbacks from the 90’s. I’ve paid 350 euros for the 1960tv, what is really cheap.

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                      banane
                      Posted at 12:25h, 01 July

                      Ok, I see, so its practically a “power amp master volume plus lower brightness mod”?
                      I found out that my attenuator damps the highs a bit, which is probably a good side effect here.

                      Yes, thats what I’m doing at the moment, looking around everyday for nice cabs/greenbacks. 350 for a used 1960tv is indeed a very good price. Seems like I have to be patient, most used cabs are loaded with G12T75 ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 17:05h, 30 June

      Just for recording, I think ๐Ÿ™‚

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