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AC/DC’s “Highway To Hell” New Series

14 Nov AC/DC’s “Highway To Hell” New Series

Heh. I think I am getting closer.

Highway To Hell seems “easier” to get to in terms of tone replication. I am convinced strongly, more and more, that Angus recorded many parts with a Marshall 2203 or 2204.

This one was recorded with a 2204. One Microphone (AT4047) for the rhythm, two for the solo, but I had to change positions for the solos as it seemed that the solo was recorded off axis. So did I.

Now, a tutorial will come, a new one, for this one too. But I am pleased to ask you to notice WHERE I am playing the main riff: over the neck pickup.

I spent a good number of hours trying to figure out how Angus had been muted possibly on tape, when he was stopping the strings and changing positions (i.e., if you listen to the record, there is NO noise whatsoever of him moving into position for the riff chords). At first, I thought it had been edited, as it was so silent and I just couldn’t be as silent, putting my hand back on the bridge. So after a whileย I tried the most natural position that comes spontaneously to mute the strings while playing this: it was with the pick over the neck pickup. Not only did that completely solve the mystery (otherwise, you would have heard a lot of buzz while changing chords for the riff) but also, the SOUND changed for a good part, and for the better: it finally gave it an additional “raw-ness”, hard to describe, but it’s a fact. The strings are also softer on that spot, and rhythm chords bounce marvelously. So I made it a little mission to aim at the screws on the neck pickup lol. I was in heaven when I found out. Absolutely try this for yourself when you have a chance.

Guitar is also a first timer here, and it’s not catalogued either yet here (boy, didn’t have time). It’s a got a few issues on the fretboard, despite a re-fret job and a PLEK job, the D string “plinks” too much. Will have to send it back to the shop. Tone is great though, as you can hear. It’s a late ’68 early ’69.

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177 Comments
  • avatar
    Multirock999
    Posted at 17:15h, 28 November

    Rock on, Fil!

  • avatar
    vitorarnoni
    Posted at 23:09h, 23 November

    hi fil !
    im from brazil so if you don’t understand something is because of that =D
    look
    i have a epiphone sg 400 and i do not have a marshall amp
    my sound is pretty good
    but there is any chance that i can make the angus sound ?

  • avatar
    HagusYoung
    Posted at 18:40h, 19 November

    Hey Fil,

    you aren’t going to sell one of your SG’s to me ? ๐Ÿ˜€
    The only ones I find on ebay are way overpriced because they are in “unplayed” condition … I need a Guitar that is nicely beaten up (I really don’t care) and good to play ๐Ÿ˜€ Its so damn confusing, The more I listen to these new JMP tracks, the more I want a late 60s SG instead of my Les Paul SG.

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    SoloDallas
    Posted at 19:08h, 16 November

    Update to iPad/iPhone/Android Users: well, it had been a mistake of mine the reason for it wouldn’t show up on iPhones. Starting from later on today – after video propagation – this video should work on iPhones (and other smart media) too. It does work flawlessly on iPads, and it really is an enjoyable thing I have to say. But iPads are not that common, though they may be more useful to learning because of their bigger screens (on the iPad, solodallas.net is really nice with working videos). Thanks for your patience as we try to deliver to you our very best. Fil ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 19:31h, 16 November

      Works fine now, Fil. Really cool! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      rjofig
      Posted at 19:58h, 16 November

      Works on my iphone 3gs as well; at a conference waiting in line for lunch ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      GoodDoseOfRock
      Posted at 03:57h, 23 November

      Hey Fil, I just bought a Marshall MG100 solid state amp because of budget constraints. I was happy to get a Marshall for that cheap but I was wondering what your opinion on the tone quality from them is? That is if you’ve ever playd one

      • avatar
        headwhop26
        Posted at 04:07h, 23 November

        Hey, Dose, I know Im not Fil, but I thought I would offer some insight. Ive played them fairly extensively, mostly just dinking around in Guitar Center for hours on end, but I think theyre fairly good for a basic rock sound. A lot of the budget Marshalls are hit or miss (I heard a band where the guitarist had a MG100FX head, and it was perhaps the worst thing to assail my ears since I first heard Justin Bieber) but a few have a lot of mojo behind them.

        Ive actually preferred the smaller ones super cranked up as opposed to the larger ones. The little 10 watt amp when its jacked up sounds infinitely better than the 50 watt-er, in my opinion, but all of them are rather flat, and character-less. As I said a few have sounded better than others, and one even blew my mind at how smooth the break-up and tone was, but most give you what you pay for– im in the same boat budget-wise. Theres no life to them, i guess.

        Didnt mean to butt in, but I thought i could possibly be of help.

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          GoodDoseOfRock
          Posted at 15:26h, 23 November

          thats cool cheers

  • avatar
    adam10603
    Posted at 11:55h, 16 November

    Fil,
    I have bad news… I’m writing from my iPhone and I have to report that your video only appears as a picture ๐Ÿ™ I couldnt watch it. …if it helps your developer, I have an iPhone 2G with firmware version 3.1.3

  • avatar
    cody12rocks
    Posted at 04:59h, 16 November

    Hey Fil, how’s it going? ๐Ÿ™‚

    I have a Line 6 POD 2.0, one of the amplifiers on it resembles that of a 1979 Marshall Plexi. I use it all of the time in my covers for my “angus” tone.

    I can’t seem to find a good malcolm tone on it, you know, that beefy clean tone known by malcolm?

    I don’t know if it’s the settings I’m using or if the 1979 Marshall Plexi isn’t right for the malcolm tone?

    Do you think Guitar Rig 4 would be a good solution to achieve his tone, or am I better off buying an amp?

    • avatar
      headwhop26
      Posted at 17:53h, 18 November

      I have a pod as well, and my Malcolm tone is similar to my Angus tone, just with the gain and bass cut. (I think)

      • avatar
        cody12rocks
        Posted at 19:29h, 18 November

        Do you have a sample of it anywhere?
        I would like to hear the tone ๐Ÿ™‚

        • avatar
          headwhop26
          Posted at 19:39h, 19 November

          I dont, for some reason, what i record into does something to the tone, so Im working on that.

          I use the plexi lead 100 model
          Gain is at half
          Bass is at a tad more than half
          Middle is at half
          Treble is CRANKED
          Presence is at 7
          Volume is all the way up.

          I have the compressor on there, just barely up on the threshold, like two notches above 0db

          I followed Fil’s EQ and have the 4 band EQ set at
          A: 12.6 db, 100 Hz
          B: 4.9 db, 370 Hz
          C: 0db, 800 Hz
          D: 12.6 db, 2.0 kHz

          As well as the Standard Spring reverb unit with
          Dwell: 32%
          Tone 48%
          Mix 38%

          Try it out. Some days it sounds better than others, and I would recommend turning your speakers WAY up to hear it well. Hope you like it.

        • avatar
          headwhop26
          Posted at 19:41h, 19 November

          AND, I forgot to add that Im using the 4×12 1967 Green 20s cab with the room at 0% and the 67 Condenser mic

    • avatar
      Angusrocks
      Posted at 20:26h, 17 November

      It WILL have ACDC sound !!!
      What a beauty this SG !!

    • avatar
      Dave4433
      Posted at 20:42h, 17 November

      though I’m not entirely sure, but Angus did use an early 1970’s to late 1970’s sg’s aswell. This was after the BiB album, ofcourse….

  • avatar
    headwhop26
    Posted at 19:31h, 15 November

    The last bend before the “and Im goin dowwnwnwnwnnnnnn” at the end of the song has BALLS for DAYS

  • avatar
    Dave4433
    Posted at 19:47h, 14 November

    Is it just me, or the site laggs with every move of a mouse ?
    I mean, it could be my pre-historic PC. But just to be sure I thought I’d ask.

    • avatar
      KyleSG
      Posted at 00:37h, 15 November

      nope it works fine for me so it may well be your pc or internet connection.

  • avatar
    TheRazor'sEdge727
    Posted at 18:33h, 14 November

    Hey Fil i loveed the angle of the camera for the solo. i was going through my music and listened to Shot Down In Flames. Are you gonna redo that song?

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    rjofig
    Posted at 17:27h, 14 November

    Fil:
    I tried and can’t get the video to play on my iPhone (mine is 3GS, iOS 3.1.2 – not the latest).
    If others can see with iOS 4.1, then it’s probably about time I upgrade ๐Ÿ™‚ Being able to watch videos on iPhone is a plus, especially when traveling

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 17:49h, 14 November

      Hi Renato, how are you trying to play the vid? Via web browser or did you dowload the vid to the iPhone?

      • avatar
        rjofig
        Posted at 18:05h, 14 November

        I tried via Safari. First, I tried clicking on the image (the vimeo control panel thing at the bottom doesn’t show up). Then I noticed the icon on the top left and clicked on it. It opened another window and took me to Fil’s vimeo page. When I click on a track there it doesn’t play; there’s a crossed circle overlaid on top of the image. Is there a way to download?

        • avatar
          banane
          Posted at 18:27h, 14 November

          Hm, doesn’t work here too (iPhone 3G, iOS 4.1). Tapped on the icon, new browser window opens up with Fils Vimeo page, and got the same crossed circle over the image.
          Downloading the video would work with some Firefox extensions, but the video have to be converted for the iPhone then.

          • avatar
            SoloDallas
            Posted at 18:29h, 14 November

            Sheisser. I only tried it on an iPad with iOS4.x and it worked flawlessly. Going to try on the iPhone.

            • avatar
              06AngusSG
              Posted at 19:12h, 14 November

              So Fil, if the Iphone thing wirks out are you going to try for Android compatibility too?

  • avatar
    deni91
    Posted at 00:18h, 14 November

    The guitar is the same in the If You Want Blood video?

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 00:22h, 14 November

      Nope, two different guitars

  • avatar
    whitetooth96
    Posted at 20:51h, 13 November

    Oh, Fil, you did really amazing job! Sound is so close to the original! Just the same!

    Fil, can you tell me, have me got the “Angus” tone or no?

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdbqXKyxkXc

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbd_8ycP5Eo

    Thank you!

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 00:24h, 14 November

      I think you have terrific BiB tone. How did you achieve it?

      • avatar
        whitetooth96
        Posted at 11:13h, 14 November

        Oh, thank you very much! I’ve got it with Guitar Rig 4 and EQ with your settings.

        • avatar
          SoloDallas
          Posted at 16:58h, 14 November

          Well… congrats! And you make me feel less guilty of having spoken out loud about GR4. You did a great job young man ๐Ÿ™‚

      • avatar
        Burnie
        Posted at 17:28h, 14 November

        It might be a good idea to create a kind of preset library here on SD.net for different amp simulators like GR4.
        I have also create some AC/DC-GR4-presets recently which sounds very good – to my ears.

    • avatar
      cwildes
      Posted at 03:27h, 14 November

      That’s a great Back in Black tone! Especially considering you’re playing a Les Paul.

      • avatar
        whitetooth96
        Posted at 11:16h, 14 November

        Thank you!
        I think Les Paul and SG are the same in sound. They are different only in weight and shape.

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 11:07h, 14 November

      Well, you did an amazing too there. Pretty good Back in Black tone and pretty good playing! How old are you and when did you start plaing?

      • avatar
        whitetooth96
        Posted at 11:17h, 14 November

        Thank you very much!
        I start playing two years ago. And now I am 13!

        • avatar
          banane
          Posted at 11:23h, 14 November

          Thats cool, I wish I started at your age. Only managed starting with 38 here ๐Ÿ™‚ Keep on rockin’! ๐Ÿ™‚

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            Angusrocks
            Posted at 11:36h, 14 November

            It`s the same about me Franz, i wished i had started playing sooo much earlier…..

            • avatar
              banane
              Posted at 11:40h, 14 November

              Yeah, it’s just a a bit a sad feeling about losing so much time…

    • avatar
      rpatzelt
      Posted at 11:58h, 15 November

      Hi Pavel, very nice playing bro. Congratulations!
      I’ve checked also your YT channel. Great indeed ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      LeroyKincaid
      Posted at 05:09h, 16 November

      Well so much for the ‘guitar god’ being dead huh?

      You’re a wizard on those solos. Tone is there too.

      I’m certainly jealous!

    • avatar
      LeroyKincaid
      Posted at 05:16h, 16 November

      Well so much for the ‘guitar god’ being dead, huh?

      You’re a wizard on those solos. Tone is there too.

      I’m certainly jealous!

  • avatar
    BadAC/DCBoy
    Posted at 20:42h, 13 November

    Now, Fil… You REALLY nailed it this time! The sound is perfect! 100% Love it!

  • avatar
    solocali
    Posted at 19:58h, 13 November

    I love the echo is it a pedal or something else? they are shipping my 78 jmp today thanks for all the help and I will keep you posted haha it was only 5 bucks more than the 77

    • avatar
      banane
      Posted at 20:02h, 13 November

      Congrats! I know how this feels ๐Ÿ™‚ I have a 79 JMP and it was one of the best purchasements in my life ๐Ÿ™‚
      As far as I know AC/DC didn’t ever use pedals or effects, and in the studio they use a little delay as maximum.

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    adam10603
    Posted at 19:19h, 13 November

    Great! Sounds so close to the original. Well done.
    btw… Fil, I got myself a new custom keyboard ๐Ÿ˜‰

    http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9641/mackeyboard.jpg

    it’s really useful! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 19:22h, 13 November

      Hahahha… are you serious? THAT is uber cool! May I use that picture please?

      • avatar
        adam10603
        Posted at 23:54h, 13 November

        of course, Fil ๐Ÿ™‚

  • avatar
    Tyler
    Posted at 18:57h, 13 November

    The tone is so highway to hell it’s not even funny! It sounds like to me on the record that angus’ guitar during the verses is double tracked. I can hear a guitar sound that is thin and trebly with alot of drive and I can hear another sound that is thicker and much more fatter which makes the sound much more mosterous. Your sound is like right in the middle of the two.

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 19:03h, 13 November

      Tyler, brilliant observation (about the original recording, naturally). I was in fact looking for exactly that: an in between tone between the two recorded parts. Yes, like almost always from HtH onward, Angus plays a third guitar part, usually in the centre of the stereo position, and he does both rhythm and solo there. They did state this plainly, too. Reason was, to keep the “dynamics” of the song at the same level. That is, if you had a solo happening all of a sudden in the centre, the before and after solo could (and most likely, would) sound weird, like a space was left. Life de-flating the song. For this reason, from probably Let There Be rock onward, Angus is frequently overdubbing with other guitar parts. Usually the additional guitar is mono, and in the center.

  • avatar
    OldSchoolRocker666
    Posted at 18:40h, 13 November

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8geCFUwOko

    and

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDyxeDNM2Gs&feature=related

    But i bet everyone already seen it but if not then go for it ! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      rpatzelt
      Posted at 12:06h, 15 November

      ๐Ÿ™‚ “a little guy like me”…but what a heart for rock and roll

  • avatar
    Kinglance
    Posted at 18:30h, 13 November

    Hey,
    Do you guys have a good internet shop or shop where u can buy material? I’m searching a shop for the tortoise Fender heavy picks… Found them on http://www.thomann.de, but you have to buy them in a set of 144 picks ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Musicstore is also known in Germany, also Musik Produktiv (there I bought my Angus Young Signature Gibson SG)…

  • avatar
    GoingDownOnTheWay
    Posted at 18:10h, 13 November

    Fil, this is the song that got me into AC/DC.

    As much as I love your attempt (and it’s a great one, as usual; better than everything I could ever come up with) I think something is not ‘right’.

    Don’t ge me wrong here. The feeling and everything is there, it’s just that I think that the sound is to bassy and the main riff seems to be too fluid and smooth.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VRO2TJwkVM

    You can see Angus playing the riff at about second 40, there are more shots.

    First of all the D chord is played with his middle finger on the second fret e-string, third finger on the second fret g-string and his pinky is on the d-note on the b-string.

    When he plays the G chord right after the two Ds he plays it with his ring and pinky finger.

    Might or might not make a hearable difference in sound, but for me to play it that way worked wonders. At the same time it is easier to play the A chord the way you did. Although I could not see Angus playing the chord in the video.

    Another thing I’d like to point out is, that he does not go up and down when strumming the riff. Yes, it’s live and maybe it was played different in the studio.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW7srJ8qJU0

    Today he might even go down for the D chords and up for the G as seen in this video about 44 seconds. Even with this cheap amp, when he swichtes to that way (but he never ever plays it down up down), it’s closer to the original recording in my opinion.

    But as I said before, yours seems to be so smooth and I think that some kind of a bit more “percussive” down strumming, especially the D, D/F# and G part will have another appeal.

    I know that it is kind of blasphemy as you are the definite source for playing AC/DC, but I hope that you can examine my thoughts on this song. It is one of my alltime favourites.

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 18:19h, 13 November

      Blasphemy? For being a great source of info and providing great info to me that I should review deeply? I think you are damn right (about there being something wrong in my performance). I just can’t bear those famous experts that hate to be proven wrong. I hope I am different. And I think – though I haven’t seen it yet, that you are indeed onto something. Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚ Do not ever be worried about “offending” me with thoughts and info. Only fools get offended by plain truth ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • avatar
        GoingDownOnTheWay
        Posted at 18:32h, 13 November

        Don’t know if there is any truth behind this. Maybe it’s nothing that will make any difference, maybe he did not play it that why recording the song.

        I am worried as I have never shown myself playing something, simply because nobody would like what they hear and because I don’t have the chance ๐Ÿ˜‰

        I don’t like to criticize whenever I can’t do it better. Really, it’s a balancing act providing info and thoughts or just be a stupid offender.

        Have a nice weekend! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • avatar
          SoloDallas
          Posted at 18:41h, 13 November

          You must be kidding me (I say it in a joyful way): you actually provided solid proof! I am actually VERY thankful to you for this. I still remember when I was corrected on my way of playing “For Those about to rock” or “Let’s get it up”. This is why I am always saying that this place is for “US” (not U.S, but “us”): I LEARN from you! THIS must be just the nth example of how we MUST keep info flowing. It’s always multiple minds that make great finds. Just think of this additional fact: until two months ago, I had NO whatsoever idea of what amplfiers they had played in the years I care more about. It was our own member SGAce (thanks again, George) that brought to my attention Marshall JMPs. I used to hate those! Instead, it was just them. Therefore, I bought some. PLEASE do NOT worry about whether you feel you can play or not these things. It means nothing. It’s your mind that is needed here. “Kind” and thoughtful critiques like yours are worth their weight in gold. Why am I underlining this so much right now? Because I FEAR that solodallas.net community members might think that this place is about me and my toys and my supposed skills and whatever. This is my biggest fear actually. I can’t stand the simple thought of this. This place is about learning. I learn every day. Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

    • avatar
      SoloDallas
      Posted at 18:35h, 13 November

      Okay, I reviewed both videos (thank you). I think the down stroke might be the key here. Right after recording it, he did it downstroking. It may be a clear sign that THAT was how the part was played on record, therefore, I’ll put myself to work on it right away and see where it takes me. As for the fingering, well, usually I think that different fingering brings different results. We’re talking about super slight nuances, but it’s all I am striving for right now: those nuances. Therefore, I can’t say until I try myself if it makes any difference or not. Instinctively, I’ll say that it could make a difference. Therefore, so much for your supposed blasphemy: thank YOU! (big smile) Fil

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        banane
        Posted at 18:46h, 13 November

        I noted this too, but as I remember Angus saying somewhere that he varies a bit especially when playing live, I didnt thought of pointing this out. Also, as far as I remember, I saw Angus playing both styles in HWTH (up and downstrokes and just downstrokes) once. Was an older one, at the beginning he stands on a box and jumped down later. Will search for it.

        • avatar
          banane
          Posted at 18:49h, 13 November

          There is it: httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsDpznl8eIs

          • avatar
            SoloDallas
            Posted at 18:54h, 13 November

            Whoa, impressive. He almost seems to have a random pattern there. But here’s my thoughts: on promotional videos, I *think* I was trying to look cooler and would do whatever felt right, more than, the actual parts. Still, food for thought, ALWAYS. Everything should be tried out thoroughly. Danke Franz, had never seen this!

            • avatar
              banane
              Posted at 19:14h, 13 November

              Yeah right, that could be. Maybe this was just for the show. And maybe, I’m not fully sure at this, he plays also some up/downstrokes on the live in madrid concert on the dvd.

              • avatar
                SoloDallas
                Posted at 19:17h, 13 November

                So Franz, now you know what I would ask Angus if I could ever meet him decently (and I already know I will never be able to). Instead of all those embarrassing questions many ask him usually, still going about Bon and all, I’d ask for “secrets” of the studio. “How did you really play that”? “Do you still remember, or you don’t”. Stuff like this. These would be questions that I never seen anyone ask. I wonder why.

                • avatar
                  banane
                  Posted at 19:34h, 13 November

                  Yeah, thought this too. Well, there were always the wrong interviewers asking the same things all the time. An Interview by a guitar player would be great. Like the Tony Platt interview about the Back in Black recording.

                • avatar
                  dubsharayko
                  Posted at 06:33h, 14 November

                  I’m very curious as to why you “think” you know that you will never be able to meet Angus, let alone the whole band; a man can’t be totally untouchable (have you tried meeting him before?). Personally, I believe you should have a much higher chance to meet Angus than most people in the world (i.e. all of your videos, this website). There have been earlier posts talking about the “what-if’s” of you ever meeting Angus. I think you’ve rallied a big enough force behind you (all huge AC/DC fans and people who admire your talent) who would totally support you on your “quest” to meeting Angus Young. I know you’ve said that AC/DC is aware of you, as is their copyrighting company; that’s a start. Now I don’t know what/if you tried to meet Angus but I’m pretty positive you’ve never had the 3000+ Solodallas.net users, thousands of YouTube subscribers and who knows how many other amounts of people that know about you, supporting you.

                  What I am trying to say, is that everyone who would be interested could sign some “petition” of sorts to arrange for Fil and Angus/the band to meet. I’ve never been involved with something like this but I believe that it is possible. I’m positive everyone has seen the interviews with any member of AC/DC where most of the time, the questions being asked aren’t very original. Imagine an interview where Fil is asking the questions and having them answered by the band!

                  Sorry, Fil, but I disagree with you. I feel that meeting Angus is entirely possible. I don’t want to sound like some crazy guy ranting on here (although I probably am) but this is an issue I’ve thought about from time to time. Imagine how awesome that interview would be? Fil, I believe I speak for everyone who has seen your work that if anyone is going to sit down for a chat with Angus, it should be you.

                  By the way, incredible video; I’ve come to expect nothing but great work from you.

                  • avatar
                    headwhop26
                    Posted at 19:41h, 15 November

                    Yeah, I dont think anyone is that untouchable.

                    As a 16 year old kid on a high school newspaper, I was able to meet Rage Against The Machine, because I made the right phone calls. Took me two weeks and 50 phone calls, but I did it.

                    I think you could.

          • avatar
            SoloDallas
            Posted at 18:59h, 13 November

            On a side note (I think this wonderful discussion that just “happened” here, will have to be included in this tutorial, and I will!) I am sort of thinking that they used whatever “playing trick” would come to them to play the parts in a way that they would work “right” in the studio. Now, keeping timing well, is a “anti-physical” thing, i.e., it’s not normal for a human body. When we hear the part played, it sounds completely natural, but it’s not so when playing it. I am ready to bet money that Angus (and even Malcolm) went to great efforts in the studio (and live) to play cool timing. Having said this, I think that the down strokes are more helpful to keep a solid timing. That is why Angus is playing downstrokes (what’s the name of the exact moving the pick down, English native speakers?) in that fresh live recording up there. The riff was some sort of new to him too, and it wasn’t easy to re-create the record feel for the song (Bon is having a hard time singing it). Angus has also is guitar slightly off tune (typical).

            • avatar
              banane
              Posted at 19:19h, 13 November

              Yeah right, I feel more comfortable when playing only downstrokes, seems to be more ergonomic, less different moving steps to coordinate.
              Is it typical for Angus having his guitar out of tune? Didnt knew this.

              • avatar
                SoloDallas
                Posted at 19:24h, 13 November

                That’s a good question: not typical of Angus, but typical of SGs back then! (laughs). And still to this day. Some SGs will NOT stay in tune, period. It’s the neck.

                • avatar
                  rpatzelt
                  Posted at 11:38h, 16 November

                  Ouch! I thought that is an on purpose thing by Angus. A half-quarter step down tunning trying to blend with Bon’s voice or something. A sort of Angus signature…
                  I never imagine this is a stupid technical problem. Anyway if my guitar is on E standard tunning and try to play some AC/DC just doesn’t sound right. Andre, on some of his lessons, show a tunning check with a detuned low E to get the AC/DC pitch.

              • avatar
                HagusYoung
                Posted at 20:40h, 13 November

                Down strokes sound much more powerful, the go like “bang! bang! bang!” instead of the down up down for the A, the last one is a more rhythmic thing, switching between the A and D string, while the down only bangs out the A much more powerful.
                Its the same with the rest of the Pattern, you either want to point out the notes (down strokes) or you get a different (very nice) groove in with alternate picking. Although I prefer the Bang! ๐Ÿ˜€

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              06AngusSG
              Posted at 20:49h, 13 November

              As a “native english speaker” downstroke is the right term. ๐Ÿ™‚

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              JaiminhoPagina
              Posted at 03:52h, 14 November

              After I saw this discussion I HAD to take a closer look at it.
              Watching many videos, looks like the “main” pattern would be “down, down, up”,and also, often “down, down, down”.

              Another one:

              Around 1:30 I think I see Angus going “down” twice. Then, I can’t see his hand moving again on the 3rd time. So, probably, he played the chord while his hand was going up. But I can’t be sure, because it’s not very close and the quality isn’t that great. 1:04 would be a nice view… But that damn light makes it hard -.-
              So, my opinion is: the first 2 strikes are almost always down. The 3rd can be an upstroke or a downstroke, depending on how Angus feel like doing ๐Ÿ™‚
              C’mon people! Let’s dig it! Post more live videos, so we can analyse them! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                JaiminhoPagina
                Posted at 03:57h, 14 November

                The link didn’t work! XD Here it is:

                httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah-09njRuw0

                And, Another one (1985, But we can’t ignore it just because it’s some years later, can we?):

                httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW1a1c7hHms

                Solodallas EDIT: fixed for you with httpv in the syntax to show directly the video for all.

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                  SoloDallas
                  Posted at 10:12h, 14 November

                  Downstrokes in the first one, first seconds into the song, all downstrokes as far as I can see. I have a theory about this. In my humble, Angus at the time was still looking for a groove in his playing. Malcolm had a better sense of timing. So, to do it “right”, he was trying the all downstrokes. Later in time, he may have become groovier and started doing it differently. Pay attention to the damn G string out of tune. I am pretty sure he must have hated it ๐Ÿ˜›
                  In the second video by the way, I hear 2203s (or 2204s) blasting all the way. Lots of “gain” in there, I LOVE that tone. God bless 2203/2204 JMPs!

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                    Angusrocks
                    Posted at 10:27h, 14 November

                    I play it always like this :
                    down down down
                    down down up
                    down down up
                    down down up
                    down
                    down down

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                      SoloDallas
                      Posted at 10:28h, 14 November

                      Yep yours seems the good way to go ๐Ÿ˜€

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                      Angusrocks
                      Posted at 10:36h, 14 November

                      thanx
                      Fil (-:

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